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Post by woolvalley »

DanBC wrote: post #613
woolvalley wrote: post #597

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since the USA is a car culture, you can safely ship to work and put the packages in your car trunk after you commute. You can ship to home the low value packages and if theft isn't common enough for you and amazon will just reship you on the rare case that it gets stolen. This breaks down if you don't do car commutes although, in urban places like NYC & SF or can't ship to work.

I used to work in goods in and I would have done everything in my power to get that stopped. It was a shitty minimum wage job and my responsibilities definitely didn't stretch to doing unpaid work for multiple people on top of my shitty job. EDIT: Maybe this is just a lack of understanding of what happens in goods-in? Or working some place where your deliveries don't add much burden?

What is a goods-in? Google doesn't show anything that makes sense in this context.

At work, there are people who work at the shipping department and then deliver the packages to people's desks. AFAIK they are paid to do this job and seem somewhat peppy compared to other similar staff in the company.

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Post by danilocesar »

iamdave wrote: post #533
will_brown wrote: post #512

I just told this story on HN, but my car window was smashed on 10/13/18 and the theives got my wallet and house keys. They used my credit card at foot locker (~$500), The Store Manager confirmed two guys made the purchase and corporate said they would turn over the video if police just ask. A month later the bank fraud dept informed me someone was trying to cash a fake check ($1,600) against my account at an ATM usin…

there needs to be a platform to post these videos for the public to crowdsource the identity of these people. And then what? Will the platform also have a portal that will let people en masse vex the local PD with messages containing links to the video until the precinct assigns an officer to the case? What happens next? Is there going to be a timer or some kind of SLA on the platform that notifies people in the crow…

I used to be a name-and-shame supporter in the past, but if you think deeply about it you might realise it's a bad move.

Name-and-Shame systems usually relies on unverified complains: One can "identify" the wrong individual or someone can make a fake complain - In both situations someone's reputation will be damaged, sometimes boyond repair.

That's why police should take care of this. They are supposed to be unbiased, run propper investigation and do proper verification. The fact that they don't do that is a different problem.

Before you argue something like "lets verify those complains", Let me put in a different way: If you keep playing the if-that-do-that game, at the end you are going to see that we have basically two options: Live in a system where lots of criminals goes to jail but more inocents gets falsely implicated, or one where we get less false-positives but we also miss some criminals.

Modern society has chosen the second option for a reason.

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Post by influx »

dv_dt wrote: post #500
tivert wrote: post #256

If you're concerned about package thieves, just buy an outdoor cabinet and put it next to your door with a note asking that packages be placed in it. I use an Ikea Josef: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/storage-furniture/outdoo... You don't even need a lock for it. If you can get the deliverymen to consistently place packages in it, the thieves will have no idea if there's actually a package at your door to steal…

I've been wondering why Amazon oriented their smart lock delivery service to an orwellian camera and lock in the home setup instead of hooked to an outdoor box like this.

The lessor known service allows you to deliver to your car's trunk:

https://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=17051031011

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Post by H1Supreme »

I watched this video earlier today, and I've seen other videos where people's packages are stolen off their front porch. One was a super busy street where the porch was at street level and totally open for all to see. My first thought is: Why are you getting packages delivered to your house if this is an issue?

I live in a rural'ish area on a very low traffic street. I still get all my packages delivered to work. All the offices I've worked in have never had a problem with me doing this. My current office is a secure building with a metal detector and armed security. No issues.

If someone's on the road, or out of the office constantly, then have the package held at a UPS or Fedex store. Once UPS, Fedex, or USPS drop that package off on your porch, it's your responsibility.

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Post by cosmotron »

ryanmercer wrote: post #739
root_axis wrote: post #674

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> You think he can get a decent engineering job, especially for a government agency, in the future with a viral public hoax on his record? Who cares? Those are arbitrary rationalizations that didn't necessarily factor into the creator's reasoning; you're simply projecting post facto reasoning that supports your preconceived conclusions. People who fall for scams and fakes use this same flawed reasoning all the time:…

> you're simply projecting post facto He literally says it's not a prank video, that he doesn't do that. He has a solid reputation both as an engineer and as a YouTuber for being scientific and factual, 4 videos ago he showed a fake video from another YouTube user and explained how to help yourself determine when a video is fake... His videos already get millions of views - his top 5 are nearly 1/4 of a billion views…

> 4 videos ago he showed a fake video from another YouTube user and explained how to help yourself determine when a video is fake...

Devil's advocate: sounds like someone knowledgeable enough to make a video that's can't be easily dismissed as a prank. :-)

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Post by manigandham »

will_brown wrote: post #512

I just told this story on HN, but my car window was smashed on 10/13/18 and the theives got my wallet and house keys. They used my credit card at foot locker (~$500), The Store Manager confirmed two guys made the purchase and corporate said they would turn over the video if police just ask. A month later the bank fraud dept informed me someone was trying to cash a fake check ($1,600) against my account at an ATM usin…

It's a bad idea because there are countless examples of the internet mob identifying the wrong people, destroying innocent lives, and creating dangerous situations through a lack of training, oversight, and accountability. Good intentions alone do not lead to good results.

Law and justice are very complicated and have a massive impact on lives and society which is why we entrust a few authorized members to carry out enforcement. That doesn't mean we don't have problems with bad police, lack of resources, or politics - but the solution is to fix those areas, not crowdsource criminal justice.

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Post by manigandham »

will_brown wrote: post #607
iamdave wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there needs to be a platform to post these videos for the public to crowdsource the identity of these people. And then what? Will the platform also have a portal that will let people en masse vex the local PD with messages containing links to the video until the precinct assigns an officer to the case? What happens next? Is there going to be a timer or some kind of SLA on the platform that notifies people in the crow…

>What happens next? Well let me tell you of another event that occurred to me in 08/17. I was kidnapped at gunpoint from a gas station, forced to drive my attacker with a gun on my for 30 minutes, eventually after getting off the highway I jumped out of my own car in gear, escaped and called the police. First words out of the sergeants mouth responding, “cut the shit what really happened.” Despite my insistence I’m a…

If you're a lawyer then this seems like a personally targeted situation. What happened to the police who ignored you? All of these interactions should be recorded so do you have a civil suit against the police department?

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Post by manigandham »

blueboo wrote: post #539
iamdave wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there needs to be a platform to post these videos for the public to crowdsource the identity of these people. And then what? Will the platform also have a portal that will let people en masse vex the local PD with messages containing links to the video until the precinct assigns an officer to the case? What happens next? Is there going to be a timer or some kind of SLA on the platform that notifies people in the crow…

If we as a society are OK with qualified law enforcement looking the other way, then we're OK with passing the buck to the unqualified. Yes, it's a "rabbit hole [we're] not sure we're prepared to go down". We're not prepared. We're going down it

We're not all OK with it, but that does not mean we should fix it by employing unqualified vigilantes instead.

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Post by jgrowl »

will_brown wrote: post #512

I just told this story on HN, but my car window was smashed on 10/13/18 and the theives got my wallet and house keys. They used my credit card at foot locker (~$500), The Store Manager confirmed two guys made the purchase and corporate said they would turn over the video if police just ask. A month later the bank fraud dept informed me someone was trying to cash a fake check ($1,600) against my account at an ATM usin…

Have you tried escalating the complaint? The 'let me talk to the manager approach.' Try to mail, call, meet in person anyone on the city council, police commissioner, etc. Tell them your situation and demand to know why no action is being taken. It still may not work, but it may be worth a shot. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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