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Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by quotha »

49531 wrote: post #391
quotha wrote: post #357

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Hard to believe how many people are concerned by that. So a cowardly thief gets glitter bombed and you are worried that they will come back!! Imagine how much worse it would get for them.

I don't think someone being a thief makes them cowardly, and thus not open to coming back and throwing a brick through your window in retaliation. A thief is already open to the idea of invading your personal space for gain, why not revenge?

The man spent months and months developing this thing, is that not revenge?

I don't understand why everyone thinks the homeowners are helpless and just waiting to be robbed/vandalized/whatever.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by jiveturkey »

lucb1e wrote: post #497
shaftway wrote: post #390

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Yeah, we had a package stolen off our porch, so we did that. It's a bench with a liftable top. The plan was to put a padlock on it. All of our packages are addressed to: Shaftway Place in Bench - Code 1234 24601 Where I Live St. My City, ST, ZipZipZip We order a lot of stuff, and probably average 3 deliveries per day. In the last 3 months we've had exactly one package placed in the bench. And we never even got around…

> average 3 deliveries per day Wow. I really wonder what the environmental impact is of just one household doing this. I think I order something once every.. two months maybe? Three? And if I could get the desired electronics in a local store, I probably would. Edit: To reply to the three initial comments at once, I see your point. I was thinking "but it's not just about the last mile, it's about getting that package…

> Wow. I really wonder what the environmental impact is of just one household doing this. I think I order something once every.. two months maybe? Three? And if I could get the desired electronics in a local store, I probably would.

You didn't state it, at least not as of this writing, but the responses are about gas/emissions waste of individual trips to the store. For that home delivery is probably break even.

There's also the aspect of individual delivery packaging. All that cardboard, foam, plastic and tape vs store delivery which are palletized and bulk packaged.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by alangibson »

iamdave wrote: post #578
blueboo wrote: post #539

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If we as a society are OK with qualified law enforcement looking the other way, then we're OK with passing the buck to the unqualified. Yes, it's a "rabbit hole [we're] not sure we're prepared to go down". We're not prepared. We're going down it

If we as a society are OK with qualified law enforcement looking the other way, then we're OK with passing the buck to the unqualified. Post hoc ergo propter hoc make for valid public policy it does not. What source do you point to that we as a society are OK with qualified law enforcement looking the other way?

Existence proof. Law enforcement looks the other way and we do nothing about it. Not being OK with something and passively accepting it is functionally identical to being OK with something.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

scarejunba wrote: post #442
aaron-santos wrote: post #395

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Expect this to be immediately co-opted by political camps to exacerbate and codify divisions that exist today.

Is that so bad? We can protect human freedom through the US constitution.

The 2nd-6th amendment have not exactly been effective at protecting the human rights they affirm at the state and city level. Where I live I have to get permission from the government (good luck if you're not white) to own the tools to defend myself from physical harm and the government can stop me and seize my property on a whim.

I believe we need more defense in depth. We need our human rights to be protected by every level of government and informally by society itself.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by vec »

hughvvd wrote: post #546
iamdave wrote: post #533

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there needs to be a platform to post these videos for the public to crowdsource the identity of these people. And then what? Will the platform also have a portal that will let people en masse vex the local PD with messages containing links to the video until the precinct assigns an officer to the case? What happens next? Is there going to be a timer or some kind of SLA on the platform that notifies people in the crow…

No, next you hire private security contractors since the cops are just state thugs who rob and kill the tax payer. You can't defend the inept killer cops, you just can't, stop it.

We don't need to defend the inept killer cops to posit that vigilante justice is even worse.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by karanke »

ryanmercer wrote: post #299
wil421 wrote: post #111

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Remember a lot of people in the US are in single family homes detached from another home. When I lived in a condo or apartment they could other leave a special key for big boxes in your normal mailbox. You would leave the key in the special mailbox for later. Or they would put it in your rental office. Large condos will have a concierge that will handle it for you. Usually UPS will put it somewhere out of sight if th…

>When I lived in a condo or apartment they could other leave a special key for big boxes in your normal mailbox. You would leave the key in the special mailbox for later. Or they would put it in your rental office. Exactly this. I sorta hate it, we have 2 boxes for like 12 units and one of the boxes keys was lost before I moved in so we have 1 box for 12 units with people getting packages almost daily it means I have…

Check if Amazon Day is an option, you can choose a day as your Amazon Day and Amazon will deliver packages on that day.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/2/18057034/amazon-day-prime...

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by woolvalley »

ragebol wrote: post #61

In the Netherlands, when I order a package and no one's at home when it's delivered, it either gets delivered to my neighbors or to the post office, with a note of where to pick it up. It's never left at my door AFAIK. How is this not an option in the US?

Since the USA is a car culture, you can safely ship to work and put the packages in your car trunk after you commute. You can ship to home the low value packages and if theft isn't common enough for you and amazon will just reship you on the rare case that it gets stolen.

This breaks down if you don't do car commutes although, in urban places like NYC & SF or can't ship to work.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by leetcrew »

Guest10928391 wrote: post #532
weberc2 wrote: post #455

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We're not talking about liability when a trap injures an innocent person; of course the innocent person would not be held liable. When a trap injures a thief, the thief should be liable. I agree that traps are a bad idea because I don't trust most people to devise traps that don't harm innocents; however, this is markedly different than the argument that "when a trap hurts a thief, the thief bears no responsibility".…

I don't see this as a black and white situation where the thief should always be responsible for injuries they sustain. What happens if I setup a machine to fire baseballs at high speed when someone touches my fake parcel? Some teenager comes to steal my package, catches a baseball between the eyes and dies or ends up disabled for life. I'm in the clear because the kid was a thief? Now, I don't think a thief deserves…

> How about we don't try to harm thieves. We document and report the case to the police to the best of our ability.

because the police are basically never going to do anything unless the squad car happens to roll by as the thief is running away with the package. you may as well send your documentation straight into the circular file.

now I understand that kids do dumb stuff from time to time. riding a dirtbike around someones fifty acre estate is not that serious, and could easily be done unintentionally if property lines are not well marked. going up to someones door/porch without an invitation is quite something else. if you can find a way to mess these people up without putting the mailman at risk, I am all for it. I would be very happy to live in a society where messing in/around a person's dwelling is understood to be a serious risk.

Re: Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Post by jiveturkey »

netsharc wrote: post #293
DickingAround wrote: post #269

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That is a real shame. If the police are not going to mediate property disputes between people, they take a lot of risk those disputes will escalate into violence. Perhaps really-good passive defense is enough (e.g. package lock boxes) but I also hope the police understand the deeper reasoning around their position and role.

Having lived in a "3rd world" country, I know the police there is useless, but it's interesting how things like resource issues (not enough manpower) is slowly turning living standards of rich countries like the US and UK towards "3rd world" levels.

there's enough manpower. there isn't enough budget.
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