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Post by delichon »

ProllyInfamous wrote: post #746
throwmeaway222 wrote: post #536

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> Murderers walk freely among you, and _we're_ not all bad people what? This is nuts. Are you saying you murder people? > A healthy society would encourage any speech which could reduce divisiveness (e.g. comments on Mr. Kirk, without retribution) Yes I agree with this. There are a lot of people that do vigils and prayers and eulogies when people die. Then there are people that go: he deserved it and XXX is next. The…

>This is nuts. Are you saying you['ve] murder[ed] people? Yes; I talked about this here two months ago [0]. In my circumstance, I would do it again with even less hesitation ... [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44476115#44482107 I also have a brother — served four tours as enlisted grunt kicking in combatants' doors — whose tally far exceeds my own (war. is. hell). It's not that I'm encouraging murder (I'm no…

Do you feel that your killings were murder or are you being hard on yourself? Do you forgive yourself?

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Post by sparrish »

kelnos wrote: post #513
sparrish wrote: post #392

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Have you ever lived in a rural community? Putting useless or malicious animals down is merciful and common place and definitely not the making of serial killers.

Glad I don't live in a rural community then. Sounds like a heartless practice, if such a thing is common in communities like that. In a wooded mountain region I frequent (not sure if it's "rural" by colloquial terms, though the USPS classifies it that way), most people try to avoid dangerous wildlife. Killing them is a last resort, and represents a failure to respect nature. I don't get the "useless" bit. Why would y…

We're not talking about wild animals here. We're talking about farm animals, which are intended to produce or work.

If your dog is killing your chickens, he's impacting your production.

If a goat is too old to reproduce, they're just costing money to feed and care.

Margins are thin on a farm and there's little room for such liabilities.

Thus it has been for thousands of years in agriculture.

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Post by zeven7 »

nabla9 wrote: post #147
jjfoooo4 wrote: post #137

I expected Kimmel to have somehow criticized Kirk, a dubious enough reason to pull the show. But this isn’t even that. Comments quoted in stories assert that the shooter was MAGA - maybe that’s somewhat controversial, but it’s ludicrous to suggest it’s offensive. That paired with comments criticizing the Dear Leader were enough. This is a new low in corporate cowardice toward Trump bullying.

Stop criticizing large corporations as moral entities. They have no other incentives other than money. Corporations are amoral (not good or bad). Only money matters. South Park can go on because they make money. Talk-shows are already dying and cutting them is easy choice even under mild pressure. The value talk they use is PR aimed at stakeholders (customers, employees, government). No company has taken a stance whe…

Organizations are led by humans.

> Stop criticizing large corporations as moral entities. They have no other incentives other than money.

I want better for the world.

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Post by normalaccess »

nabla9 wrote: post #126

The era of TV-talk shows is already ending, so it's easy for companies to agree to censorship. These moves just quicken the end of the talk-show era. More profitable and successful shows seem to be immune for now, and South Park goes harder than ever.

Yep, I was thinking how convenient for Sinclair to "loose" Jimmy right now. I'll bet they are going along with it because his show was already really unpopular (at least for the ratings that I could find) and this is a perfect excuse to drop him while saving face.

Everybody "wins"... The right get to gloat, the left get to have talking points and Sinclair get's to freshen up their line up while we all fight it out in the comments.

I'll bet there was a cigar smoke filled back room chat when the discission was made $$$.

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Post by sparrish »

wsatb wrote: post #507
sparrish wrote: post #392

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Have you ever lived in a rural community? Putting useless or malicious animals down is merciful and common place and definitely not the making of serial killers.

> Putting useless or malicious animals down is merciful and common place Maybe that's part of the problem? You kill what you consider "useless" or "malicious". Noem killed a puppy.

That's the way farms have always worked.

The sheep herder kills the wolf. The farmer kills the bugs that eat the crop. The rancher kills the coyote that kills his calves.

What exactly was the alternative? She should have let the dog continue to kill her chickens?

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Post by themaninthedark »

UmGuys wrote: post #724
themaninthedark wrote: post #710

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No, they were blocking links to the news story from the NY Post, including users from sending private messages... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24780798 >In April 2021, White House advisers met with Twitter content moderators. The moderators believed the meeting had gone well, but noted in a private Slack discussion that they had fielded "one really tough question about why Alex Berenson hasn't been kicked off…

I googled Alex as I didn't know who that was. The government has an interest in public health. 1.2 million Americans (likely many more) died as a result of covid. There were refrigerator trucks filled with bodies in places. It was hell. People who spread misinformation literally kill people and themselves. It seems like the government back then actually worked with companies to craft guidance rather than threatening…

You don't have to tell me it was hell, I was there.

People, the government and scientists were all spreading misinformation depending on what the official messaging was at the time.

Case in point: Early on, the government was saying "Masks are not effective at stopping COVID-19" due to them wanting to control supply. When that happened, there was a large number of studies that came out showing just that. When you looked at the methodology, it was "Mask over mouth, cough into Petri dish" and see if any COVID was detectable in dish. Also "Virus particle size is much smaller than openings on mask"

When the government changed it's stance, all of those were retracted. It took the WHO 2 YEARS to change their stance and say that COVID-19 was airborne:

>In the spring of 2020, as covid-19 took hold, confusion reigned among scientists, doctors, public health experts, and others. Many insisted the spread of the new virus was through the air, yet the World Health Organization refused to use the terms “airborne” or “aerosol”1 in the context of covid-19 until 2021.2 This had repercussions as the world debated mask wearing (and what types of masks were suitable) and whether indoor spaces were a factor in infection.

>Now, four years later and after two years of deliberation by experts,3 WHO has altered its definition of the “airborne” spread of infectious pathogens in the hope of avoiding the confusion and miscommunication that characterised the first year of the pandemic—and threatened attempts to control the virus’s spread.

https://www.bmj.com/content/385/bmj.q985

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22280304

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Post by notmyjob »

dakial1 wrote: post #731
NedF wrote: post #723

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He didn't say nor implied that. He implied that MAGA is trying to exploit the killing to create the image of the "terrorist left/antifa/BLM/immigrants/arab" conspiracy to their audience. Which they are 100% trying to do, like they did with Trump's shooter, who was a lunatic just like Kirk's murderer (and all the others)

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Post by allturtles »

normalaccess wrote: post #754

I am no fan of Jimmy's show but this seems out of line. My tinfoil hat thinks this might be a way for Sinclair to "justly" remove a show that has been loosing ratings by riding the popular wave and saving some face. According to sites like https://televisionstats.com/s/jimmy-kimmel-live he wasn't even in the top 500 TV shows Band of Brothers a show from 24 years ago still gets more viewers that Jimmy get's now.

That data appears to be nonsense based on "online audience engagement," not viewership. According to that very source, Jimmy Kimmel is the #6 tv show as of today!

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

fsckboy wrote: post #555
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #173

I am largely neutral on this particular assassination, as I knew almost nothing about Mr. Kirk prior to his departure (just name recognition & basic political associations). But I do think, after decades of reflection, that comedians are correct when they point out that stereotypical humor shouldn't be off limits to any performer (of any background/color), but is... e.g. Owen Benjamin, Chappelle, Seinfeld .

> I am largely neutral on this particular assassination could you list the assassinations that you are not neutral on? I feel the list could be interesting if not prolly infamous

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Post by sparrish »

jacquesm wrote: post #524
sparrish wrote: post #392

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Have you ever lived in a rural community? Putting useless or malicious animals down is merciful and common place and definitely not the making of serial killers.

It is. Until you start bragging about it. That changes the perspective completely. I've never heard a farmer or a vet brag about when they had to put down an animal.

I doubt anyone enjoys putting an animal down and there are those who are psychologically unable to do it. They usually ask a neighbor or family member to do the necessary.

I disagree that she was bragging about it. I think she was illustrating that she can do what needs done, even the unpleasant parts. I believe it resonated well with anyone who's had to do similar tasks.

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