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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by wqaatwt »

JLO64 wrote: post #402
nabla9 wrote: post #126

The era of TV-talk shows is already ending, so it's easy for companies to agree to censorship. These moves just quicken the end of the talk-show era. More profitable and successful shows seem to be immune for now, and South Park goes harder than ever.

I'm somewhat convinced that (at least among the younger generation) the role that these talkshow hosts held has already been replaced by live streamers and podcasters. Even Conan has transitioned into primarily focusing on podcasts while others refused to adapt and stuck to the networks. 10 years ago I'm fairly certain these moves would have been met with a strong reaction from the public, but now nobody cares...

There was a strong reaction from the public. Unfortunately that’s why this happened.. affiliate networks refusing to air his show probably had a much bigger impact than the FCC

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Post by baobun »

gruez wrote: post #219
enlightens wrote: post #172

The summary at the top of the page says > ABC said it was pulling the “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” show off the air “indefinitely” after controversial comments by its host about the slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. but the article says the following, which is entirely different: > “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everyth…

> “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said. Off topic, but has there been convincing evidence that the suspect is right wing/MAGA, as Kimmel implied? I've seen some posts on reddit to this effect, but they're far from convincing.

There is no such implication there.

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Post by kelnos »

sparrish wrote: post #392
rolph wrote: post #113

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"Noem is bragging that she shot the family hunting dog because he was "worthless"; all he would do is "massacre chickens" at her hunting lodge, and tried to bite her. She also put down a "disgusting, musky billy goat" that lived around her compound. She said wanted to come clean and show how she can "responsibility". She bragged that the story of shooting her dog got her the top slot at ICE." this is so chillingly re…

Have you ever lived in a rural community? Putting useless or malicious animals down is merciful and common place and definitely not the making of serial killers.

Glad I don't live in a rural community then. Sounds like a heartless practice, if such a thing is common in communities like that.

In a wooded mountain region I frequent (not sure if it's "rural" by colloquial terms, though the USPS classifies it that way), most people try to avoid dangerous wildlife. Killing them is a last resort, and represents a failure to respect nature.

I don't get the "useless" bit. Why would you kill a "useless" animal? Just let it be.

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Post by [deleted] »

suzdude wrote: post #432
throwmeaway222 wrote: post #144

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It's extremely relevant. The person grew up "conservative" and was radicalized to the left in college. The reason this is important is that it's a trend. If the trend isn't acknowledged on the left, then it will just continue.

He was raised in a rightwing household with easy access to firearms. Hating Kirk is nothing unusual. Maybe something in his conservative upbringing led him to believe violence was an acceptable action based on his hate. That's not a belief shared by the Democratic Party.

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Post by jacquesm »

tptacek wrote: post #17

Keep in mind that Kimmel has been hinting about retiring for a couple years now, his contract was up in the air, the "late night television show" category is evaporating (if there's still even a Tonight Show in 10 years, it'll be purely for nostalgia), and this sends Kimmel out in a blaze of glory. I think it's too easy to sort of anthropomorphize these kinds of conflicts --- Kimmel's show has a large staff, and he's…

Yeah, probably just coincidence. /s

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Post by kelnos »

nebula8804 wrote: post #487
thehappypm wrote: post #467

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“All media” is a huge stretch.. legacy hyper regulated media maybe

YouTube recently introduced an AI-driven policy that automatically places suspected under-18 accounts into Restricted Mode, which blocks access to political and news content. This happens because lots of people are sharing accounts with their kids and despite Youtubers attempts to change this there are large amount of viewers who actually dont subscribe to channels. This change has already caused independent creators…

> places suspected under-18 accounts into Restricted Mode, which blocks access to political and news content

Debates about the quality of this sort of content aside, wow, that's just what we need, a generation of new adults who have no idea what's going on...

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Post by wqaatwt »

GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #104
tptacek wrote: post #62

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This is one of those interminable sprawling message board arguments that has a really simple resolution nobody wants to accept, which is that commitment to free expression and "right/left" are mostly orthogonal, and both the right and the left weaponize commitment to free expression when it makes sense for them to.

i get what you're saying but "the left" has basically zero political power in the united states. it never has. the closest we ever were was with FDR but i wouldn't consider a leader who operated concentration camps to be leftist by any stretch. we have a right wing and then a righter wing. bernie sanders is an anomaly, elizabeth warren is just left of center, and i can't think of too many other current politicians at…

> wouldn't consider a leader who operated concentration camps to be leftist by any stretch

Well.. if you exclude all the very successful political movements which considered themselves “leftist”.

Bit of a no true Scotsman thing.

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Post by wqaatwt »

suzdude wrote: post #388
kulahan wrote: post #80

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I don’t think they need to. I think they just need to shake hands and say it’s okay to have a different opinion. There have been a number of studies around the world, plus some real world examples (Utah gubernatorial 2020) where showing your opponents in a sympathetic light can make a big difference in reductions in political polarization. It’s especially effective when signaled by the “elite”: https://journals.sagep…

It's rough when very basic premises, "political violence, no matter who causes it, is abhorrent," are up for debate. The minority people who support, defend, ignore, or rationalize actions which have no place in this country is a major part of the issue. Turn on the largest mainstream media "news" channel, and you'll hear nothing but mindless hate for 20 hours a day, without consideration for what actual news is occu…

> support, defend, ignore, or rationalize actions

So up until this point it was perfectly acceptable? Or is this only an issue when the wrong side does it in a fairly moderate way (since the other side regularly and openly embraces and encourages political violence).

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Post by kelnos »

dismalaf wrote: post #205
davesque wrote: post #182

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Yes, I agree. So let it be business then instead of explicitly making it ideological?

Firing someone for making a political statement is business. You never want to alienate half your consumer base. COVID is still fresh enough that people should remember. If you were pro or anti anything 5 years ago it probably hurt you since sentiment swung both ways and both positions look silly in hindsight.

> Firing someone for making a political statement is business.

Except that he was fired right after the FCC chair threatened ABC. That feels more like government censorship than business.

Unless now "business" encompasses "it's better for business to not criticize the government". Which I suppose it does, under Trump. But that's not something we should accept or allow in a free society, under the constitution we have.

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Post by cocacola1 »

fdschoeneman wrote: post #358
rubyfan wrote: post #289

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People can cancel and boycott all they want, that’s not what this is. This is government censorship of an individual they want to punish which is not okay.

It's unclear that was why he was fired.

Seems like a clear cut case of jawboning.
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