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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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>an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government Which protest does not meet that criteria?

Most? You can protest against a government while still acknowledging its legitimacy.

I don't think the truckers are trying to say that the government is illegitimate though? They are saying the mandate laws are illegitimate.

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Media coverage of these protests is vastly negative. I remember only a few years ago (2020) when protests were undoubtedly violent across the United States. Video evidence of this violence as well as mass crowd driven theft was widely documented and distributed. I have yet to see video evidence of any violence from freedom convoys, and the ground based video evidence I have seen appears vastly peaceful. This does not…

11 people were arrested on weapons charges at the Alberta blockade (handguns and body armor) and one person was arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit murder for trying to run over police with his tractor

That's still a considerably small number of people considering the protesters number in the tens of thousands

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Media coverage of these protests is vastly negative. I remember only a few years ago (2020) when protests were undoubtedly violent across the United States. Video evidence of this violence as well as mass crowd driven theft was widely documented and distributed. I have yet to see video evidence of any violence from freedom convoys, and the ground based video evidence I have seen appears vastly peaceful. This does not…

> Media coverage of these protests is vastly negative. Keep in mind that in Canada a lot of the media is state owned and operated. So the media coverage might reflect more on what the ruling party wants the people to think of the protests. On the livestreams they had music blasting and children playing in the snow near the trucks. Doesn’t look like an “insurrection”, as the state media described it, by any stretch (u…

> On the livestreams they had music blasting and children playing in the snow near the trucks. Doesn’t look like an “insurrection”,

Except for the existence of snow, it sounds like things I’ve seen around fighters in the Palestinian intifada. I think you have an unrealistic view of what an insurrection looks like.

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That is ironic coming from a Canadian. Just recently, a lot of money poured in from Canada to support the farmer protest in India. Here is one example: https://www.gofundme.com/f/donatetofarmers PS: Not that I support the current Canadian protests. Edit: Some other examples: 1. https://globalnews.ca/news/7680005/farmers-india-protest-bil... 2. https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-ind... 3. https:/…

As a matter of principle I agree with you, however there is also a large Indian diaspora in Canada and it's quite possible most of that money was donated by Indians; it doesn't make a lot of sense for a Canadian living in the US to donate the money from a US account though.

I agree on the Indians in Canada donating part. But Canadian PM should have stayed away from making comments supporting the protest.

https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-ind...

Especially since some of these protestors are rumored to have backing of Khalistani separatists who have blown up an Air India flight in the past killing 329 people.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/khalistan-terror-group...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182

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Yes, it's very idealistic to think 'hacktivists' would take the upper ground here in what is already a very dirty fight. I mean you have 61% of donors not even being Canadians. They're funding a movement that shut down a major commerce corridor into the US, directly affecting the US economy. To say this is about the 'working class' is naive. I mean you think Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, was tweeting suppo…

A large number of donors for BLM weren't from the US. Do you also support doxing them?

I don't support doxing anybody. I just don't believe the narrative that the truckers and their supporters represent the oppressed working class.

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Medically unsafe volumes claim has not been substantiated with any real evidence, and quite frankly absolutely false at first glance because the driver located right next to the horn would have permanently ringing ears by now. There is however evidence of many false claims, later walked back, just like the assault at the shelter, which as it turns out, was: 1) verbal assault 2) did not involve anyone from the convoy.…

Please don't cross into the flamewar style like this. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. You can make your substantive points without that. We want curious conversation here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've been doing this in other threads too (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30333616 ). Could you please not? Here's an old line from PG, which I love…

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>specific to the internal affairs of Canada. It's a Canada policy, but is specific to crossing the border from the US. "Specific to internal affairs" is a stretch at best. >Shining Path, the Contras, the Medellín Cartel, or any other faction. You forgot BLM.

BLM is based in the United States, so that reference would not make sense unless you are talking about funding crossing state lines. > It's a Canada policy, but is specific to crossing the border from the US. Up until the blockade of the border, it was an internal matter entirely, but you are correct here. If the border situation escalates, then the OAS needs to get involved to mediate a ceasefire and ensure that fre…

Canada and international donations to blm is.

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Good grief. Yes, a disturbance can refer to noise or violence, but that doesn't imply that a noise is violence. This is the lowest quality argumentation I've seen on this site for a while.

I'm giving a definition that applies to my own words. That's the way I meant distrubance. Also, it's not because something isn't violent that it isn't harmful.

You specifically likened it to assault. A noisy protest is annoying and it can disturb the quiet but it isn’t harmful in any sense that could be considered assault.

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Reading this thread demonstrate to me why we (as a society, no matter where you're living) can't live together as we've been doing anymore. The ideas are colliding in too many areas and all of them look like a rat trap. Something hostile in human behavior we are unable to remove is deeply rotten and who knows how we can fix it. This are sad (but non desperate) times to live.

It is all pushed by digital ad revenue. Conflict is extremely profitable. As long as socials and infotainment (it's not news) companies make more selling conflict and outrage, that is all we'll get. They will amplify anything for more dollars. When is the last time you saw a headline that wasn't click-bait? Everyone is so busy hating their neighbor they miss the oligarchy printing money.

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> "there is no violence, and no obvious danger." This is false and I would expect better of HN posters. A group of the protestors locked the doors to a downtown apartment building with handcuffs and then attempted to set that building on fire. Although nobody has been injured yet, there have been plenty of weapons seizures as well as incidents of protestors ramming police vehicles and/or attempting to arrest police o…

Compared to the violence, burning and looting in front of the American election this is absolutely nothing and have only lasted a few days Those demonstrations were mostly peaceful according to those we are supposed to listen to, so obviously the current demonstrations are even more peaceful. Edit: I'm triple vaccinated myself and recommend it for everyone else, but if we have freedom to choose that also must include…

People still have their rights to do "dumb choices". I'm triple vaccinated, got omicron one month later of being vaccinated, still believe that the vaccine helped me to have it almost asymptomatically, but I'm ok with people saying that dont want to be vaccinated.
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