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Fame has a direct financial value. Any US president is among the most famous and well known people on earth. trump will make more money from speaking appearances than he did from any of his businesses over the last several decades
This is what I've never understood about post presentient lives. People like Trump and Bush can barely deliver a speech or speak coherently, who is paying to hear them attempt it??
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#762This has very little to do with technology. This is a culture war, and after the capitol riot the culture has shifted to openly reject the losing ideology. Conservatives are right to fight the threat of censorship because there's always a possibility this could slide out of control, but the rest of society is right to push back until they decide to drop the election fraud lies that are tearing this country apart.
As someone who is sympathetic to both cultures, this has been painful to watch. Now that it's time for the powers that be to punish the red tribe, the blue tribe is all too happy to join in the authoritarianism - eg feigning outrage at the gallows (ignoring the guillotine symbolism of the past year), assertions that speech must be policed, and calls to take right-wing terrorism "seriously" (meaning attack red tribe p…
You have never been guaranteed a venue on the internet. You have always punched your ticket on any platform - including the one that we're typing on now - by colouring within the lines of the powers that be. Sometimes the lines will change, and what was acceptable or tolerated is suddenly outside the window. Sometimes (most of the time?) these lines move for fairly cynical reasons.
Don't like it? Make your own platform or find one that's happy to host you. That's not censorship - that's internet culture. There are very few places on the internet that are committed to free speech absolutism - 4chan comes to mind, back in the day. Free speech absolutists are trying to assert the right to free speech absolutism on every platform which is a new thing, and disruptive, and not particularly useful.
I understand Parler is back up on non US servers. Good for them. Truly. I'm happy that they've found a place to have their discussions. I'm also happy that they've set up shop in a place that is fair game for the entire law enforcement and intelligence apparatus in case they try to plan more insurrections.
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I didn't realize that Moscow Mitch was the bellwether of history.
Being impeached twice is the landmark here. We're living some pretty important history as it's being written right now.
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Fame has a direct financial value. Any US president is among the most famous and well known people on earth. trump will make more money from speaking appearances than he did from any of his businesses over the last several decades
This is what I've never understood about post presentient lives. People like Trump and Bush can barely deliver a speech or speak coherently, who is paying to hear them attempt it??
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This is what I've never understood about post presentient lives. People like Trump and Bush can barely deliver a speech or speak coherently, who is paying to hear them attempt it??
On trump, I agree, but Bush? Didn't you see Bush's eulogy for his father? He is a skilled public speaker, in spite of his infamous gaffes.
He hasn't had much air time over here since leaving office, my opinion of him is all drawn from 2000-2008.
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#766>The Capitol Attack Where was this rhetoric when Antifa and BLM burned and looted for months with the blessings of all corporations and the mainstream media? Surely the Capitol Hill has an insurance policy? Or does that moronic point only apply to the common folk? Susan Rosenberg literally bombed the Capitol in 1983 and now serves as vice chair of the board of directors of Thousand Currents, a " non-profit foundation…
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Members of Congress will use this event as a catalyst for fundraising, soon after the election they will draft legislation that threatens to control and/or regulate the tech giants. Shortly after that the lobbyists representing Big Tech get wind of this new legislation on the horizon and donations will flow like a river to the PACs and re-election campaigns, then the proposed legislation will be shelved.
If you see how much wealth the politicians, especially the one holding important position, you see why they want the job for a merely $200,000 a year. Clinton and Obama got very wealth after their presidency. Pelosi wealth goes up many fold for becoming speaker of the house. Not only their wealth go up, everyone around them got a lot wealthier too.
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What’s interesting about this to me is that Facebook, where most of the planning took place, is still online, while Parler has been, for all intents and purposes, killed. I wonder why AANG isn’t colluding to kill F like they did with Parler - by tomorrow morning - now that this has come to light. It seems only fair given that we now have an established standard of user behavior that dictates whether or not companies…
> Parler has been, for all intents and purposes, killed. Parler wasn't “killed” because planning took place there, but because they were openly at least unable if not actually unwilling to take action against a huge backlog of specific problem identified to them; the problem was current and forward, not retrospective.
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#769I had a thought that came about as a result of this post and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25836503 both being on the HN front page at around roughly the same time I perused HN. The thought is: why is GitHub so fast at taking down a potentially infringing code repository in response to a DMCA request but Google, Facebook, Twitter et al. so slow at taking down violence-promoting content?
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Blurting out the words "be peaceful" during a half hour word salad about the evil Democrats stealing an election isn't "explicit", it's a pathetic attempt at doublespeak and plausible deniability. It's not fooling anyone but the brain dead and comatose.
> Blurting out the words "be peaceful" during a half hour word salad about the evil Democrats stealing an election isn't "explicit", it's a pathetic attempt at doublespeak and plausible deniability. I'm sorry to say it, but you're a textbook example of what a confirmation bias is. You ignore what doesn't fit your conclusion and fill the holes with what you the same conclusion. The proof that this is BS is simple, if…
Calling this confirmation bias is too generous. Trump's statements are simply a Rorschach test at this point. The content of his statements is immaterial to the conclusions drawn from them.