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> Israel picked a fight Right. By existing.
By invading and attacking.
Nope
Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
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Today, Jews are denied entry to many Muslim countries - not just Israelis, anyone who looks Jewish. The excuse that “some other people of this religion did something bad” does not justify hating and ethnically cleansing everyone who shares that religion.
As for the ban on Jews by some Arab / muslim countries - remember that the west was actively encouraging Jews, with Zionist movements all over the world, to migrate to the middle-east and occupy muslim-Arab territory. Sure, it began with a narrow focus with only Palestine. But who knew where it would stop if it was successful? Most of these countries are former western colonies who immediately understood what the wes…
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Do you believe and call on the United States to bomb Iran. Which is the only real offer on the table. This created absolute hell in Syria, Libya and other nations. Democracy was certainly not delivered. Are you calling for the US to bomb Iran? Or are you against that?
Syria was an absolute hell under Assad for dissidents, can't blame America for that. Iraq and Libya maybe, though Saddam and Gaddafi weren't exactly great leaders to their people either. Anyway, IMO the thing about Iran is that it's mostly Shia, and the population isn't that religious, especially not in cities. Unlike Syria, Iraq and Libya of the past, they aren't ruled by a secular dictatorship, but religious extrem…
> Syria was an absolute hell under Assad for dissidents,
And now its an absolute hell for everyone. Is that really progress?
Humanitarian Crisis: Over 60% of the population faces food insecurity. Millions are internally displaced, often living in overcrowded, inadequate, and unsafe, temporary shelters.
Economic Situation: The economy is devastated, with skyrocketing prices for basic goods, high unemployment, and a massive depletion of household resources.
Infrastructure and Health: Roughly half of all hospitals are non-functional. Access to electricity, clean water, and sanitation is severely limited.
Education and Safety: Roughly 1 in 4 schools are damaged or destroyed, affecting education access.
The security situation remains volatile, with an elevated risk of violence and armed conflict in various parts of the country.
As of late 2025, the situation remains dire, with continued, significant, and long-term deterioration in the daily lives of civilians.
Find more here: https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/syria/brief/the-toll-of...
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
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Yes, it is all relative. It is appeasement compared to war and much heavier sanctions that ended up being necessary. Clinton and even Bush II administrations were hoping internal change would come up during Khatami era and hoping for him to be Gorbachev. Regardless of Bush II harsh rhetoric, the real animosity only really started after Ahmadinejad was installed in Iran. You are correct that Clinton was still not as f…
Fine, show some quotes from "Mullahs" where they acknowledge this supposed appeasement.
I don't think them acknowledging anything in public is either necessary or relevant to the discussion. None of this is germane to the original question posed and I have no intention to change the narrative in your head so I'm out of here.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#755An iranian expat here. I have been following the news closely, mostly getting my data from my friends in Iran before the internet shutdown and after it was (sort of) lifted. The death toll is way above this number, you have to consider the fact that Iran is a big country with many small cities, and in my city alone (which is very small and rarely has any protest going on) many people have died (i don’t have the exact…
Don't know about who exactly are the 'leftists' you are referring to but here's my take : Palestine : Dont send bombs. Send Aid. Lift blockade so Palestinians dont suffer. Iran : Dont send bombs. Send Aid. Lift sanctions so Iranian people dont suffer. Interested to hear your take regarding the same.
Your simplistic recipe shows you don't understand the situation and way for improvement in either case.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#756An iranian expat here. I have been following the news closely, mostly getting my data from my friends in Iran before the internet shutdown and after it was (sort of) lifted. The death toll is way above this number, you have to consider the fact that Iran is a big country with many small cities, and in my city alone (which is very small and rarely has any protest going on) many people have died (i don’t have the exact…
Do you believe and call on the United States to bomb Iran. Which is the only real offer on the table. This created absolute hell in Syria, Libya and other nations. Democracy was certainly not delivered. Are you calling for the US to bomb Iran? Or are you against that?
Syria became a hell for its citizen exactly because Obama run away from enforcing the very red line (chemical weapons) he himself had drawn (for himself). He basically allowed the massacre to escalate.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#757I really don’t understand why in the West there is nobody in the streets to protest but there was so many people for Palestine… Where are the people?
Oh, no, not this false dichotomy again! People protest to affect political change in their own countries. For example, that's why Americans now protest against ICE and not against the secret police in Turkmenistan. In my country, the government recently signed a secret arms deal with Israel to sell it weapons. Weapons that are then used to maim children. I don't like that. Major politicians have said that Israel shou…
> Oh, no, not this false dichotomy again!
> People protest to affect political change in their own countries.
Hu? What about Palestine? Is it the US? People can protest about anything they want. Foreign policy or international intervention (in any form) are 2 of them. If people think they need their government to do something about a foreign country they can protest. And many times when people have double nationality they can also protest for their own country.
Protest is not only for political change in our own country. As much as people can protest for Palestine, people can also protest their own cause about what is happening in Iran.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#758This is horrific. Iranians/Persians are some of the brightest and warmest people that have a culture spanning back thousands of years. May the young people in Iran persist and overcome this brutal regime of terror.
Unfortunately that history includes nearly perfecting the use of torture thousands of years ago. https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/torture-achaemenid-pe...
This says very little about the quality of the culture averaged over those thousands of years
Quit cherrypicking for the sake of being an edgelord
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You both have been breaking the site guidelines badly. We ban accounts that do that. Please don't do it again. Also, please don't use HN for nationalistic/ideological/religious flamewar (or any flamewar). It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Sorry. Thanks for reminding us not to water down the values of the site. I'll do better