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Almost everyone has a phone you don’t need a second one built in to your car.
Will your phone be easily accessible after a crash with rollover?
Usually not always.
Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
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#752This thread is becoming huge and so searching through the comments is not easy. Nonetheless it’s my impression that little or no attention was directed to the regulatory compliance needed for vehicles to be marketed under the rules of UN (known as UN/ECE Regulations and approval scheme) and similar approaches worldwide. Which means that roughly speaking that the security and safety of the car being sold today rest assured until I don’t change (upgrade) the software governing its functionalities. It’s totally unclear how it might be possible at least in Europe to upgrade major parts of vehicles software without breaking its approval. Comments on this?
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Admittedly I don’t know your salary or market, but it is possible to make decent money in embedded. Connections & market timing are both vital though, in my experience, as well as being actually good at your job. I’m in Canada so numbers are way different, but salary-wise I’m in the ~75th percentile software engineers in my area, my title is embedded engineer, and I’m fairly junior (3 years out of university, ~6 year…
Problems like this always come down to salary. I love embedded (hardware in general, really) and would absolutely love to do it, but during my entire career, the salaries for embedded have been so much lower than you get for slinging JS/web shit. And now with 15 years in, the gap is even worse. At this point, when I wanted to get back into hardware, it made more financial sense to outfit my home office with all the m…
it is possible to get an embedded-adjacent job that pays well over 500k (my friend was bit banging FPGAs), it'll just be at an HFT instead of a car company
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I don't understand this sentiment. Should all VW drivers have a "I hate Hitler" sticker on their car too? Because in case you aren't aware: VW was started by the German Labour Front (part of the Nazi party). Adolf Hitler himself oversaw early development of the first models. Why the need to apologize for the CEO of the company that you buy products from? Should we also have an "I hate Foxconn" sticker on every Apple…
Because there are a lot of folks out there who think that merely patronizing a business supports everything their leadership stands for
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Excessive horning (made up word) is not just a Vietnamese thing. Italy is probably Europe's worst offender, with Greece a close contender. I'm not so familiar with Asia, but I get the impression that the entirety of Indian and most of Chinese drivers feel the need to lean on the horn with gay abandon (fnarr). In Britain the horn is generally reserved for "fuck that was close: I think you are a bit of a tosser" or "yo…
Horns were disabled in Chongqing at least a couple of decades ago. I’m not sure what it’s like now though, but the government in China can and will deal with excessive horning using means we wouldn’t consider in the west.
They straight up banned horning in Shanghai when I was there in 2017 using some kind of camera system IIRC, it was quite jarring when I continued onto Nanjing and the usual cacophony resumed.
They also banned lane changing over solid lines with the same camera system IIRC
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Then you want the Dacia Media Control. It has a phone holder where other trim levels would place the screen, and USB power around there. Other than that, the car is mostly Bluetooth a speaker. They actually have an app that allows you to tune the FM radio, otherwise I don't think you can listen to radio broadcasts. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dacia.dngo
The issue is you're still driving a, somehow, even worse Renault.
“I want this feature, someone should do it.”
“These guys do it…”
“Oh no, not those guys!”
We could instead discuss the feature, but no.
Re: Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
#757As someone who works professionally on embedded software devices that update over the internet, car companies are stuck not because they can't get software talent, but because they have no ability to actually build the electronics alongside the software, which is ultimately what constrains embedded software. Without the right hardware, the constraints are just insurmountable, you can not do X feature because board A…
I worked in similar systems and you are 100% right. 80% of the time was spent on communication protocols between the different boards and microcontrollers. QAing and solving issues from short-sighted dozens of unique custom protocols that worked in non-standard ways (every time a component needs to talk to another component a new protocol was invented). When you have dozens of communication lines required between dif…
This aspect of the industry has seriously regressed. We started out trying to standardize and as vehicles have become more dependent on onboard networks manufacturers have gone completely proprietary and have put all information behind lawyers. The consumer is the real loser.
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The future we want: The Ford Econoline rebooted with diesel-electric hybrid and full EV powertrain options, kei truck style flatbed with foldable sidewalls and tailgate, built on an actual frame so custom bed options are now possible, fully analog controls, no connectivity or center console display of any kind.
I want the center console, but not hooked to the rest of the car. Instead, it’d have a standard screen, and a jog wheel that’s compatible with third party computers. I’d settle for a bluetooth (call and music) capable fm radio though.
Serious question: Have you ever driven a vehicle that didn't have a center console display? Not having an ipad in the middle of the dash vying for your attention is pretty sweet.
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#759There is a 0.0% chance I am going to buy a car that requires a network connection.
All of this is complete nonsense and a huge waste of resources.
Especially for electric cars. These things are so simple that it is not funny. The level of sophistication required is barely much more then what went into a 1990s era Sony Walkman.
What a humiliating fail for modern automakers.
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I can actually remove my number plate. One tool, five minutes, car still drives. And of course it's a tracker. It reports my location to a third party. There is no other definition for it. That it purportedly only does this during an "emergency" is not something I can verify nor trust.
I’m certain you aren’t that important for anyone to care. Yes: it reports your location to a third party. When you have an accident. So you can get help. And of course it can be verified. At the end of the day it’s a sim card in a passive mode. Maybe you don’t know how to verify it. There are millions of them driving around. I’m sure someone more qualified than you would have already reported if they were tracking in…
> I’m certain you aren’t that important for anyone to care.
Storage is cheap. We know the NSA hoovers up everything it can and puts in a database. This is facile reasoning.
> So you can get help.
How many accidents resulted in fatalities because 911 couldn't find the victim? What's the percentage on that you think? Is there _no other way_ to get help other than this system?
> I’m sure someone more qualified than you would have already reported if
You're just full of confidence. Pray tell where it comes from. What makes you believe this is true?