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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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For what it’s worth, I was just reading that Leo wasn’t seen as “completely” American due to his many years in Peru — he’s even a citizen. Take that as you will.

1955 born (chicago) 1977 seminary grad (chicago) 1982 ordination (->rome) 1985 canon law doctor (->peru) 1999 midwest augustinians (->chicago) 2001 global augustinians (->rome) 2015 bishop (->peru) 2021 dicasterate (->rome)

  2005 world series (chicago)
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Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Cubs

Indeed, and he's from Dolton (a southern suburb) and lived in Hyde Park (south side of Chicago) for awhile. (Not that it's uncommon for south siders to favor the Cubs, but it certainly is amusing.) https://blockclubchicago.org/2025/05/08/pope-leo-xiv-is-a-cu... https://abc7chicago.com/post/2025-is-new-pope-cardinal-rober...

My father-in-law grew up a few blocks from Prevost and they’re a Cubs household. The family switched a century ago, after the Sox gambling scandal. Serious business!

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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That's an interesting thought but if they're actually that concerned about it then they'd wait longer than four months. It probably has more to do with America's predominant religion being protestantism by a very wife margin for most of the country's existence. We didn't have a Catholic president until Kennedy and even then proving to the common American that Catholics aren't insane Vatican mindslaves was considered…

> That's an interesting thought but if they're actually that concerned about it then they'd wait longer than four months. I don't think they had much control over when Francis died.

Sure, but there clearly wasn't much concern if an American got 2/3rds of the vote on day 2. They didn't have to elect a new pope this quickly.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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"people" "Polymarket" How many non-technical people are on polymarket? That seems like a poor sample size.

One of two things must be true: Either Polymarket's more accurate than you are, or you can make free money.

It’s not free money, it’s high risk with a net positive expected return. Any significant profit would carry an irresponsible level of risk. Significant profit without significant risk would take many bets, which means sustaining the accuracy advantage over broader subject matter, which means lots of time spent, which means it’s time for money, which is just a job.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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The prevailing wisdom has been proven wrong on this occasion. He is very much a continuation of Francis's school of thought in spite of the "fat Pope thin Pope" wisdom, and he is an American who has been elected Pope, which was almost unthinkable because of America's economic, political, and mass media domination of the western world. Very unexpected

This (continuing Francis' school of thought) should be rather predictable - Pope Francis appointed the majority of voting cardinals, so it's not a stretch to think this is generally his intended outcome.

Not just a majority, but I read 80% of Cardinals that voted in the conclave.

Francis was a smart man, and he knew that in order for his policies to continue he would need to ensure a like-minded successor would be elected.

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Yep he's more of a citizen of the world than an American, otherwise I don't think he would have ever been considered. It also helps he was held in high regard by Pope Francis.

To be fair, most people around the world could be considered citizens of the world compared to the average American.

If you're talking about crossing country borders, then maybe. If you're talking about distance traveled, I would venture to guess that Americans on average travel further distances. The United States of America has states larger than many countries in Europe.

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No fan of the RC church here but I didn't hear any mocking. Just pointing out a counterfactual experience.

Honestly not even sure it's meant to be a counterfactual experience, just more pointing out that the original comment isn't really germane. "The aesthetics of $THING are really very impressive whether you believe the underlying mythology or not." "Yeah well I had a bad experience with $THING so I don't get any joy out of it all because it's dark and sinister! " ...ok? What's the response to something like that suppos…

I'm not asking for your apology, or even your response. You could have kept reading on to other comments, ignoring those which were not meant for someone like you. I am allowed to add to a discussion, I am sorry that it did not meet your standards.
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