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Post by seanmcdirmid »

roenxi wrote: post #631
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #308

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> messaging is hard when prices never went down… The opposite of inflation (when prices go up), deflation (when prices go down) is never a good thing. But explaining that a bit of inflation is a good thing is something all economists agree on but most normal people can't understand. The fact that velocity should always be positive, and that "lower inflation" means lowering the rate of price growth, not deflation, is…

I doubt all economists agree on that because it is obviously not true. For example if there was a period where the CPI dropped combined with increasing wages across the workforce, that'd be pretty great for most people. Deflation, in the abstract. is about as good or bad as inflation. Slightly better because a serious deflationary crisis is much less damaging than an inflationary one. You go to https://en.wikipedia.o…

Deflation is universally considered bad, I don’t think there are many economists, if any at all, who think it’s a good thing. The problem with deflation is that everyone stops consuming in hope of better prices, like Japan, and the way they dig out of deflation is via artificially inducing inflation. It is definitely an easier problem to solve than excessive inflation, but deflation usually underlines a bigger problem with the economy.

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Post by mightyham »

settrans wrote: post #446
bhouston wrote: post #415

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The controversial Greater Israel army patch seen in Gaza includes Sinai and the western banks of the Red Sea as well as a bunch of Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Of course the end point of expansion is likely not predetermined.

Controversial, as in almost certainly made up anti-Israel propaganda? Ryan McBeth presents his thoughtful analysis and debunking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8HWJ2v0R6k

Israel's finance minister gave a speech in front of a greater Israel flag last year.

https://www.axios.com/2023/03/20/bezalel-smotrich-jordan-gre...

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Post by siltcakes »

edanm wrote: post #661
volleyball wrote: post #615

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Why is the current finance minister of Israel engaging in "almost certainly made up anti-Israel propaganda"? https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-seeks-to-calm-waters-wi... The article talks about his a speech he made in Paris in March of 2023 in which he calls Palestinians a made-up people. The podium he is speaking from features a map of Israel that includes Jordanian and Syrian territory. Israel is literally invad…

Because to (imo) Israel's great shame, its current finance minister is a right-wing extremist with very little support among the electorate, but unfortunately a very elevated position in the government because of Netanyahu's political necessities. His view doesn't come close to representing the majority Israeli view; I'm fairly certain that in most surveys these days he gets literally 0 seats in the Israeli Knesset.

It's not accurate to say that his views are not represented by mainstream Israeli citizens. Most Israelis think the attack on Gaza has either been justified or not gone far enough! Israeli leadership very much represents the views of the majority in Israel (and Zionists outside of Israel).

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/05/30/israeli-views-...

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Post by gadders »

acdha wrote: post #326
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"In later years, however, former Soviet officials cited SDI as a factor in the eventual collapse of their country, for it showed that the Soviet Union was politically unprepared for and economically incapable of competing in a new arms race with the United States, especially one led by someone as unrelenting as Reagan." https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ronald-Reagan/Relations...

Note “a factor” - you could say the same about the peaceful space program, computer age, biotech, etc. Most of the world was advancing faster than the USSR in every way and there’s no reason to think that arc wouldn’t have continued under a second Carter administration.

I mean you can guess that might have happened, but I can't imagine a weak president like Carter saying "Tear down that wall" or calling USSR the evil empire.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

oh_my_goodness wrote: post #310
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we’ll see how that will work in 2026 midterms :) he didn’t explain jackshit. he’ll try to play the word game which he also tried in 2018/2020 and we all know how that worked out

It will probably work out fine in the elections, because Trump's followers trust him to do right by them even while he's lying. Time will tell whether they're correct.

A sitting president is more often than not going to lose in the mid-terms. Unless Trump has a positive approval rating going into mid-terms, he definitely loses the House (and I doubt he will positive after his first month).

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

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FrustratedMonky wrote: post #715

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These articles aren't painting the condemning picture I think you are thinking they do. If someone becomes president, and a foreign government is already falling apart, and you talk about options and what might become the new government, does that automatically make it your fault? The Shah wasn't a saint, and kind of created the situation. If you want to place blame for Iran, it might need to go further back to Eisen…

it was utopia. everywhere on the planet that was not the west. that cultural stagnation and backwardness could attract parasitic imperialism , if you hike at the foot of the exponential mountains , who could have known .. certainly not the culture that had all the greek scripts and did nothing with them but slavery and local imperialism. That history of half truths doesn't hold water anymore. We have colonized countr…

??? can you clarify please.

Are you blaming the Greeks for Imperialism? Maybe referencing Alexander the Great era when they conquered Persia? Perhaps pushing the blame for Iran even further back?

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Post by perrygeo »

One of my strongest memories of my childhood is meeting Jimmy Carter on a commercial flight, coming back from a family trip to Disneyworld. He walked back through the coach section and greet everyone personally. I got to shake his hand. He was legitimately interested in what everyone had to say.

Even as a 8yr old, I understood how unique this was. He was a man of the people and fully dedicated his life to America. Probably the last president to do so; instead we committed to the path of unencumbered greed ala Reagan.

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Post by edanm »

siltcakes wrote: post #753
edanm wrote: post #661

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Because to (imo) Israel's great shame, its current finance minister is a right-wing extremist with very little support among the electorate, but unfortunately a very elevated position in the government because of Netanyahu's political necessities. His view doesn't come close to representing the majority Israeli view; I'm fairly certain that in most surveys these days he gets literally 0 seats in the Israeli Knesset.

It's not accurate to say that his views are not represented by mainstream Israeli citizens. Most Israelis think the attack on Gaza has either been justified or not gone far enough! Israeli leadership very much represents the views of the majority in Israel (and Zionists outside of Israel). https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/05/30/israeli-views-...

I was referring to his views on annexing Gaza, the West Bank or other views. You're asking a different question.

In addition, that survey is from half a year ago. Surveys today show a majority of Israelis wanting a ceasefire-for-hostages deal.

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Post by tgma »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #715
GuardianCaveman wrote: post #646

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I wrote out a snarky response based off what I understood and then I did more research and he had a big impact. This is a better article to link to in my opinion though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter%27s_engagement_wi...

These articles aren't painting the condemning picture I think you are thinking they do. If someone becomes president, and a foreign government is already falling apart, and you talk about options and what might become the new government, does that automatically make it your fault? The Shah wasn't a saint, and kind of created the situation. If you want to place blame for Iran, it might need to go further back to Eisen…

That is just your narrative. The incident was a disasterous foreign policy and very direct and it backfired on him very quickly too (I frankly rather not further debate this on a gratitude thread out of respect for his supporters but we could go ad nauseum). You can add all the color you want to soothe your pain and paint your own hero in the story as an unmistakeable saint, meanwhile kicking every other leader down for basic decisions they had to make for the good of their people. In the end results speak for themselves: the American people did not see him worthy of a second term.

The point is not "there are hard choices a President has to make," which is a fine attitude, but the fact that the GP idolized him so much to declare him best for "all of humanity." That is absolutely ridiculous. Clearly not.

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Post by Tiktaalik »

nla wrote: post #197

My parents almost lost their house to a 19% mortgage after he was in office.

If you're thinking this was Carter's fault, well the same thing happened North of the border too.

History seems to be repeating right now as people frustrated with severe inflation are blaming their local governments and dumping incumbents, but the problem is world wide and it's not terribly clear that there are some poor decisions by local governments that are to blame.

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