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Post by xvector »

rurp wrote: post #536
xvector wrote: post #497

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Eh, society did a pretty good job overall. The bomb was the end of conventional warfare between nuclear nations. MAD has created an era of peace unlike anything our species has ever seen before.

Well it works great, until is doesn't. We're perpetually a few bad decisions from a few possibly deranged actors away from obliterating all of those gains and then some.

Right, and in the meantime nuclear-armed countries mostly get to avoid the horrible, endless churn of death and war and teenagers being sent off to the meat grinder to push some border here or some border there.

We have eliminated warfare between nuclear countries, conflicts have been reduced to nuclear/non-nuclear or proxy warfare, and that's a very solid reduction in suffering.

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Post by nihil2501 »

superfrank wrote: post #420
lelandfe wrote: post #285

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I saw my first AI video that completely fooled commenters: https://imgur.com/a/cbjVKMU This was not marked as AI-generated and commenters were in awe at this fuzzy train, missing the "AIGC" signs. I'm quite nervous for the future.

I know there are people acting like this is obvious that this is AI, but I get why people wouldn't catch it, even if they know that AI is capable of creating a video like this. A) Most of the give aways are pretty subtle and not what viewers are focused on. Sure, if you look closely the fur blends in with the pavement in some places, but I'm not going to spend 5 minutes investigating every video I see for hints of AI…

I'm beginning to write off most images as AI. I actually think that's where this is all headed.

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Post by nihil2501 »

darkerside wrote: post #703
lelandfe wrote: post #285

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I saw my first AI video that completely fooled commenters: https://imgur.com/a/cbjVKMU This was not marked as AI-generated and commenters were in awe at this fuzzy train, missing the "AIGC" signs. I'm quite nervous for the future.

People are smart enough to know that what you see in movies isn't real. It will just take a little time for people to realize that now applies to all videos and images.

The frequency is so high, and I am getting so burned out on checking comments to gauge how much everything is changing, that I've nearly given up subconsciously. Pretty close to just ignoring all images I see.

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Post by gloosx »

So in the end, was it all classic hype pumping and heavily edited marketing material? Can't create account but from what I see on the front-page, every video looks kinda strange, almost in everyone of them something is instantly off to my eye. Anyone got decent results yet?

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Post by gloosx »

meta_x_ai wrote: post #336
miltonlost wrote: post #62

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The adage "a picture is worth a thousand words" has the nice corollary "A thousand words isn't enough to be precise about an image". Now expand that to movies and games and you can get why this whole generative-AI bubble is going to pop.

A picture is worth a thousand words. A word is worth a thousand pictures. (E.g Love) It is abstraction all the way

it is all Information to be precise.

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Post by anonzzzies »

mhh__ wrote: post #34

Unless they drop something mega in the next few months can't help but think that openai's moat is basically gone for now at least.

Yep, haven't used chatgpt seriously in many months; I check it with our coding toolkit every so often, but it just performs so much worse than Claude on everything we do...

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Post by akomtu »

itsdev wrote: post #747

Who legitimately asked for, or wants this? It's cool on it's face, sure. What legitimate problem does it solve? Isn't AI supposed to make our lives easier, or is that just "not what it's supposed to be bro", or whatever. I've lost track at this point with all the hallucinations and poor/bad/really fucking bad responses. It's not 100% of the time, but that's the point of companies like OpenAI releasing stuff like this…

Sorat? https://anthroposophy.eu/Sorat

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Post by jcims »

agnishom wrote: post #719
fratlas wrote: post #702

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just use a canva template

Thanks, I did not know that you could use Canva for presentations. However, it is still proprietary software. (Worse, it lives on the web)

Work at a bank? That’s my reaction to 95% of the cool stuff I see every week.

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Post by throwaway314155 »

gloosx wrote: post #755

So in the end, was it all classic hype pumping and heavily edited marketing material? Can't create account but from what I see on the front-page, every video looks kinda strange, almost in everyone of them something is instantly off to my eye. Anyone got decent results yet?

As far as I can tell, this is not Sora, but a distilled model that runs in a reasonable amount of time, with a reasonable amount of compute. It's pretty likely that's resulted in degradation of quality. Further, the marketing/demo-ing for Sora for the past year has been heavily curated videos from OpenAI and it's not clear what was generate using Sora and what was being generated using Sora "Turbo" (this distilled model). It wouldn't surprise me if some or much of it was from the original Sora model, leading to mismatched expectations and hype fatigue.

Mostly hunches from me. It could very well be that the original Sora is also plagued with outputs that aren't just subjectively "bad", but which aren't _useful_ (not adhering to the prompt, for instance).

There's some cool ideas here. The storyboard thing is nifty - kind of the refined synthetic captions that ChatGPT uses for DALLE3 on crack. Perhaps after people get over the prompting learning curve it will output better results. But it seems tougher to prompt than simple text-to-image, requiring generally longer prompts that aim to steer the model away from whatever strange thing it's doing that you don't need it to do. In my case, using the "image as the first frame" approach, the model generated cuts between newly imagined cameras consistently, when I simply wanted a single continuous shot from the POV of the camera of the photo.

We'll see, but I'm sort of over it. The UX is fancy for sure, and the scale they're pulling off with this is unprecedented even if there's already decent competitors.

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