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Post by throw-the-towel »

jorvi wrote: post #243
jsheard wrote: post #29

There's also the obligatory non-Pro model, and a refresh of the Pixel Fold: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9 https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9_pro_fold Usually the Pro is bigger than the non-Pro but this time they're exactly the same size, and they've added a bigger Pro XL variant. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-9,Google... The Pro and Pro XL appear to have identical specs as…

Would have been nice if they did a regular size (5.8”) for normal people and 6.8” for the genetic freaks with dinner plate hands. 6.3” is still huge. 5.8” is workable. And it’s not like there’s no precedent, the Zenfone 10 is also 5.8” and is adored for it.

Ah, this world where a 5.8"-sized shovel is somehow considered normal.

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Post by sexy_seedbox »

apatheticonion wrote: post #631

I'd buy this if it had USB4 that - when plugged into a dock with a monitor, keyboard and mouse - put up a complete desktop OS (preferably full fat Linux). I could then use my phone as a thin-client for work or gaming, perhaps even experimenting with proton locally. Apple already demonstrated that mobile hardware is capable of workstation workloads so I'd see this as a natural step forward. Beyond that, there isn't an…

Samsung DEX still works great with my 4 year old S10e

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by riddley »

riddley wrote: post #658
SushiHippie wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only bought a Pixel because of GrapheneOS. I think I've never had this few issues with a phone. (I only had Samsung phones before this) It feels even better than the Android that the Pixels ship with, I used it for a day before I flashed GrapheneOS, and I can completely understand why one would not buy a Pixel again if they only experienced the Stock OS.

What excited you about Graphene?

Oh right! I think I have that on a tablet. I was confusing it with the alternative to Android that Google is developing when I asked you about it. Thanks for the info.

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Post by ninkendo »

nasdaq-txn wrote: post #572
thaumasiotes wrote: post #477

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In the beginning, smartphones were all tiny, because it was universally agreed that smaller cell phones were better. Then there was a huge, neverending push to make phones as large as possible, or larger. Sometimes smaller phones have been offered as an unpopular option, but more often "enormous" is the minimum size. And as long as that's been going on, people have been complaining that they want their phone to fit i…

>Why are the manufacturers so insistent on not providing small phones? They don't sell. Apple killed the iPhone mini due to low sales. Asus replaced the universally lauded Zenfone 10 with a very large Zenfone 11. Google increased the size of the Pixel 6 when compared to its predecessor. Sales also increased.

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll occasionally re-introduce a mini phone like McDonald's does with the McRib.

Somewhere there's gotta be numbers that show "there are people who buy minis, but they only buy a phone every few years, so let's make a mini every third model year" or something.

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Post by clumsysmurf »

chc4 wrote: post #707

I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features. I turn off every AI assistant feature on my existing devices, I actively don't want a phone that ties Gemini and AI photoshop even tighter into it. If Google wanted to actually improve their phones they would add basic software functionality they're still missing instead like, say, a per-app volume mixer that half the 3rd party Android p…

Not only are these AI features stuff people don't want, but obviously having a Tensor G4 in the device raises its cost. I'd rather not pay for that.

I have the Pixel "a" devices, and hope they can stay at that price point.

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Post by londons_explore »

avidiax wrote: post #741
sangnoir wrote: post #736

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> I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features Google has been tastefully integrating AI into phones for a while now using opt-ins. The now-many-years old phone screening feature ensures the fear of spam won't lead to unintentionally missing calls from the doctor/dentist who call from unknown numbers. Screening suspicious calls instead of declining them is a massive quality of life…

There is also "hold for me", where the phone listens to hold music for you, then rings when the operator arrives. And there is a feature now to show you how busy a customer service line is at a particular time, and to give you a text transcript with clickable buttons for the phone tree.

Am I the only one who thinks these features really don't add much to the experience?

If an annoying phone tree is going to take 3 minutes to navigate by listening to the prompts, then it will also take 3 minutes to navigate by letting the AI listen and write little buttons for me.

I didn't really save any time.

If on the other hand it could say "other users have seen this phone tree before, so here is the whole searchable tree with no waiting", that would be a noteworthy feature.

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Post by ninkendo »

Auracle wrote: post #557
mihaic wrote: post #543

I abhor all these phones with a glass back, that look great in the store and then everyone puts an ugly back cover on. I'm still rocking a Pixel 5, which is actually my second Pixel 5. I really like using it without a case. It's light, small, can handle a fall without the back shattering, and I like the matte finish. All I want is a version with more modern specs, but every manufacturer keeps optimizing for the adver…

You don't need to put a case on phones. I've had an iPhone 11 since it came out, with no case, and quite a few drops onto hard floors. It's still fine. Obviously there's some luck involved but the only time I put a case on a (in that case, Samsung) phone it shattered the first time I dropped it. So, I figured I might as well go without again. I've yet to have an iPhone break from a fall, only from leaning up against…

Related: I use a 15 Pro with no case and this thing is an absolute beast. I've dropped it on concrete many times, no shattering. The newer glass they use seems to be doing the job. (This from someone who's shattered the front and/or back glass of at least 5 prior iPhones too.)

Not even a scratch on it either, titanium turns out to be a pretty fantastic frame material.

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Post by mh- »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #717
nepger21 wrote: post #578

Google really needs to improve the core offering of what a phone is supposed to provide instead of using half baked AI as a selling point. I have been using Pixel 7 for almost the past 2 years. But the amount of basic core issues are crazy. Recently,since the July update, every place where the phone cannot catch network signal, it shutdowns. And with the update, somehow i feel it cannot catch network signal as strong…

My Pixel 6 and Pixel 8 have worked remarkably badly as cellular devices. I may well not re-up. The last straw is the aggressive Doze mode. Notifications regularly come in very late, 30+ minutes or more.

Especially frustrating because they've tuned that to try to improve battery life, rather than fixing what causes poor performance (battery life) in the first place.

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Post by canucker2016 »

Keyframe wrote: post #642
canucker2016 wrote: post #431

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In the Google Pixel 2024 Keynote, one of the presenters, Dave Citron, had to try three times to get Gemini to perform the preapproved, practiced demonstration task - 33.3% success rate for something that Google KNOWS will work. see https://www.youtube.com/live/N_y2tP9of8A?t=1692

at this stage, I'd be happy with google assistant "only" understanding what I'd like to play on youtube (+music) while driving. Far-fetched dream would be to understand streets I'd like to navigate to via google maps (not US, not english). Barrier is so low compared to rest.

UX-wise, I'm not sure why everyone is so keen on voice commands for AI.

Why let everyone in earshot know what you're up to? Sure, it's easier than typing all that text given crappy feedback of these smartphone onscreen keyboards.

If you show a pic to Google Lens app, the app will proceed to identify text and highlight those text passages.

In the AI-verse, Lens could detect the concert tour.

- if the tour was in the past, Lens could look up in Photos any media with GPS locations at those concert locations/dates and show them.

- if the tour is now/in the future, Lens could detect the dates and locations, and look up in your calendar to find when you are available. If you are available when the tour comes to your town, Lens would show a big green checkmark next to that date/location pair or highlight that date/location. Otherwise, it goes into search mode and crosses out dates/location when you aren't available. For out-of-town locations when you are available, Lens could start up Maps to search for flights to those locations. Perhaps a search of your contacts to see if you have friends/relatives in/near those out-of-town locations. or look in your calendar to see if you've been to any of those out-of-town locations before, etc. etc.

That'd impress me.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by j_timberlake »

eitally wrote: post #187
appel wrote: post #104

Google's trade-in estimates for the P9 Pro: Pixel Fold (256/512): $760 Pixel 8 Pro (128/256/512/1TB): $699 Pixel 8 (128/256): $490 Pixel 7a: $300 Pixel 7 Pro (128/256/512): $540 Pixel 7 (128/256): $360 Edit: there's a complete overview of all trade in estimates in this post: https://slickdeals.net/f/17689866-buy-pixel-9-pro-or-pixel-9...

I have a P8Pro and it may well be worth the money to trade it in, especially to get a slightly more manageable sized phone.

I think it's a good deal. After-tax price is ~$1082, trade-in is $699, with a $200 store credit ($300 with a Google 1 sub), and $21 back from 2% credit card rewards. So ~$162 cost, which is not much more than the increase in trade-in value. Plus the 1 year of Gemini Advanced and maybe some YouTube premium months.

The main downside is that store credit expires in 1 year. Also I hate buying new phone cases.

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