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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by avidiax »

sangnoir wrote: post #736
chc4 wrote: post #707

I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features. I turn off every AI assistant feature on my existing devices, I actively don't want a phone that ties Gemini and AI photoshop even tighter into it. If Google wanted to actually improve their phones they would add basic software functionality they're still missing instead like, say, a per-app volume mixer that half the 3rd party Android p…

> I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features Google has been tastefully integrating AI into phones for a while now using opt-ins. The now-many-years old phone screening feature ensures the fear of spam won't lead to unintentionally missing calls from the doctor/dentist who call from unknown numbers. Screening suspicious calls instead of declining them is a massive quality of life…

There is also "hold for me", where the phone listens to hold music for you, then rings when the operator arrives.

And there is a feature now to show you how busy a customer service line is at a particular time, and to give you a text transcript with clickable buttons for the phone tree.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by bearjaws »

blinding-streak wrote: post #683
nepger21 wrote: post #578

Google really needs to improve the core offering of what a phone is supposed to provide instead of using half baked AI as a selling point. I have been using Pixel 7 for almost the past 2 years. But the amount of basic core issues are crazy. Recently,since the July update, every place where the phone cannot catch network signal, it shutdowns. And with the update, somehow i feel it cannot catch network signal as strong…

My 2 year old Pixel 7 is working great, I've experienced none of these problems. That's frustrating.

The Pixel 7 fixed those two problems, but it's still pretty weak compared to phones in its price range.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by kllrnohj »

miriam_catira wrote: post #722
paxys wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I have seen women tend to prefer the larger phone sizes more than men, because they keep it in their handbags and use it two-handed.

Sure, for some women, but let's not generalize. Personally, I hate carrying a purse, and the new phones don't even fit in the pocket inside my purse. Plus, I miss being able to reach the entire screen with one thumb, with the phone held in one hand. I do admit to typing two-handed, sometimes, but damn I wish I didn't NEED to! I can barely reach the left side of the screen reliably, much less the top left corner. :(

Unfortunately the market has consistently spoken - small phones simply don't sell. Nobody could sustain it. Whether or not it's because the generalization is accurate or not is moot.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by 999900000999 »

BeetleB wrote: post #496
999900000999 wrote: post #44

I have never been less excited for a phone. Maybe it's the One Plus 12 I'm holding, but this is a hard pass by me. All I want is a flagship chip, Esim support and a headphone jack. But since earbuds are almost all profit we won't see jacks coming back.

The OnePlus 12 cost about the same as this phone when new, correct?

Correct.

I think the OnePlus 12 is the best Android phone for the money.

The Red Magic 9S is very close to perfect, but lacks Esim.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by throwaway2037 »

chc4 wrote: post #707

I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features. I turn off every AI assistant feature on my existing devices, I actively don't want a phone that ties Gemini and AI photoshop even tighter into it. If Google wanted to actually improve their phones they would add basic software functionality they're still missing instead like, say, a per-app volume mixer that half the 3rd party Android p…

    > per-app volume mixer
Is there a free app that you would recommend?

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

sangnoir wrote: post #736
chc4 wrote: post #707

I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features. I turn off every AI assistant feature on my existing devices, I actively don't want a phone that ties Gemini and AI photoshop even tighter into it. If Google wanted to actually improve their phones they would add basic software functionality they're still missing instead like, say, a per-app volume mixer that half the 3rd party Android p…

> I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features Google has been tastefully integrating AI into phones for a while now using opt-ins. The now-many-years old phone screening feature ensures the fear of spam won't lead to unintentionally missing calls from the doctor/dentist who call from unknown numbers. Screening suspicious calls instead of declining them is a massive quality of life…

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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by SushiHippie »

riddley wrote: post #658
SushiHippie wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only bought a Pixel because of GrapheneOS. I think I've never had this few issues with a phone. (I only had Samsung phones before this) It feels even better than the Android that the Pixels ship with, I used it for a day before I flashed GrapheneOS, and I can completely understand why one would not buy a Pixel again if they only experienced the Stock OS.

What excited you about Graphene?

Probably the top reason I wanted to get GrapheneOS was the privacy/security aspect of it, this includes: no google play services by default, multiple user profiles (more than the Stock OS can have), a network permission for apps (this normally can't be toggled), disabling all usb data connections (can easily be activated in the Settings if I need it), Bootloader can be locked again after flashing the ROM and much more.

It also has very frequent updates, and my phone will get them for a long time (also true for the Stock Android on Pixels, but that one really sucks), which was also very important for me, as I want to be able to use my phone as long as possible.

What made this even more appeling is the possibility to install sandboxed google play in a seperate profile/user for apps that really need it, which works surprisingly well, and even then the google play services don't run with elevated permissions like they normally do, but with the same permissions like other apps.

And the battery life is insane, if I don't use my phone it basically does not loose any battery, and even with heavy usage I don't need to charge it daily.

So GrapheneOS was the easiest way to start degoogling (kind of ironic using Google Hardware) my mobile phone, while still being able to run nearly all of the Apps I need.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by nacs »

sangnoir wrote: post #736
chc4 wrote: post #707

I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features. I turn off every AI assistant feature on my existing devices, I actively don't want a phone that ties Gemini and AI photoshop even tighter into it. If Google wanted to actually improve their phones they would add basic software functionality they're still missing instead like, say, a per-app volume mixer that half the 3rd party Android p…

> I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features Google has been tastefully integrating AI into phones for a while now using opt-ins. The now-many-years old phone screening feature ensures the fear of spam won't lead to unintentionally missing calls from the doctor/dentist who call from unknown numbers. Screening suspicious calls instead of declining them is a massive quality of life…

> tastefully integrating AI

Tastefully integrating AI involves not uploading all of my photos and speech and text to the cloud and doing who knows what with that personal data.

The majority of this data should never leave my device and that's why on-device LLMs/AI are much more tasteful.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by GuB-42 »

taeric wrote: post #183

I'm kind of sad that the world seems to have given up on the smaller phones. The marketing of the masculine hand holding the larger phone is amusing to me, and I can understand wanting to have a larger screen. I do not like the amount of space these things take in my pocket, though.

What really annoys me is that that there are like dozens of Android phones on sale in major stores right now, from different manufacturers, and they are all the same. All featureless ~6 inch slabs where the only difference seems to be the arrangement of the camera lenses on the back, even on the software side they are all pretty much the same.

I understand that we have found some kind of an optimum, that it is the form that sells the best and what most people want, but with so many manufacturers and models, there should be room for some niches. Where is the craziness from the early days? All the gadgets Samsung was known for, the physical keyboards, the small phones, the huge phones, the styluses, etc...

It seems the only exceptions you can find are overpriced folding phones, and some rugged phones. You may get a few more options from brands most people never heard of, usually only available online, often directly from China. But even with that, if you want something that doesn't have the iPhone form factor, your options are very limited.

If 100 different phones are available, it would be nice if one of them was for 1% of the people who want something different.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by fsckboy »

LegitShady wrote: post #558
delecti wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why you think you'd like the Pixel fold more than the Samsung Fold. Their dimensions are similar, but you've already said you dislike the software experience. I had the Nexus 5, Pixel 1, 3a, and now 7a, with a couple other phones in between which each time drove me back to Google hardware and their flavor of Android. If you didn't like the software in the early days of Pixel, or even in the Nexus days be…

Personally can't imagine someone thinking "I hate the pixel experience" and then actually preferring samsung's, which is way worse.

i probably write in too parsimonious a style compared to how people read: my complaint was not about the pixel experience, it was about the experience moving from each pixel version to the next back in earlier days, it was about the deltas.

I can learn any system, but I want one and done. I don't want to keep having to learn all the time when it comes to things like muscle memory.

i hate gestures, for example. If I could configure/control them, alright, but I don't like when some touch that used to be unnoticed or neutral suddenly starts wiping out what I'm doing. my mantra when it comes to coding UIs: job number one is never ever lose anything the user has typed

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