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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by kube-system »

dgacmu wrote: post #391
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There is something quite shocking (pardon the pun) to older car enthusiasts about just how fast off the line dual-motor EVs are. The super coupes of one’s youth are utterly obliterated on the dragstrip, not by EV coupes, but by family SUVs and pickup trucks. That said, just because they can go fast in a straight line doesn’t make them in any way equivalent to a 911. Give me a mountain pass or a racetrack, (and no kid…

I drove a rented SUV a few weeks ago (GMC Acadia Denali) that had quite shocking acceleration -- 310 horsepower or so -- and the handling of a dead fish. It was kind of scary, and overall a really unpleasant experience. I don't understand why the manufacturer would choose that combination other than being able to market the HP. And this was gas, not EV.

Try to cram 7 or 8 people and some luggage into one of those and that 310hp won't feel so powerful anymore. But the handling will be even more terrifying!

I hate getting one of these as a rental instead of a van.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by toast0 »

starcraft2wol wrote: post #664
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Also a 911 looks like a cool sports car, while the cybertruck looks like it's being rendered by a Super Nintendo. A lot of the attraction of sports cars is the cool aesthetic, which your average family SUV or pickup truck really doesn't have, and the cybertruck has a negative amount of.

I don't think this comment will age well.

People might grow to like the Cybertruck. A yellow xTerra looks like a normal car now, and I remember them being totally bonkers.

But a Cybertruck is always going to look like it wandered out of StuntRaceFX.

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Post by resolutebat »

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Wouldn't the first truck's range be significantly reduced by the additional weight? The second truck will have to tow a third fully charged truck to get us to 500 miles.

That's the kind of math you use Tsiolkovsky rocket equation for. Best would be to do the EV equivalent of asparagus staging - you have all trucks providing acceleration, but trucks 1 and 2 are also being recharged by truck 3. You then jettison it once its battery runs dry, leaving you with trucks 1 and 2, the latter also charging the former. Again, drop truck 2 as it runs out of juice. This lets you get rid of excess…

This is the kind of quality shitposting I come to HN for.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by sveme »

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And in CA, it's $0.30 per KWH, so extremely misleading if you are there - which most of the purchases will be at. Also in CA that price is going up 5% per year.

In the UK that's more like $0.45 and in Germany $0.60.

For home electricity? Maybe during the peak of '22, certainly not now: I pay around 0.25€/kWh on average per month via Tibber in Germany. Most new contracts are closer to 0.28€/kWh according to the Zeit Energymonitor at the moment.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by Always_Anon »

starcraft2wol wrote: post #671
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I feel like it already has limited social value except as a sort of MAGA hat for Elon. I predict it’ll have some rabid adherents but also develop a reputation as a vehicle for assholes - already in a lot of circles the Tesla brand has a negative association due to Elon behaving like a nepo bully.

> cybertruck is the maga hat of trucks How is this a real comment?

EDS: Elon Derangement Syndrome

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Post by throwitaway222 »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #708
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And in CA, it's $0.30 per KWH, so extremely misleading if you are there - which most of the purchases will be at. Also in CA that price is going up 5% per year.

OTOH CA doesn't have $3.30 gas prices either.

Even at $4 or $5 that's not twice $3.30.

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Post by starcraft2wol »

enjoylife wrote: post #714
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I don't think this comment will age well.

If the “Lindy effect” holds true for the 911, it might be quite a long time before the 911 and its variants go out of style. The same cannot be said for the cyber truck, and all of the other short lived prototype cars that have very harsh angular lines.

very harsh angular lines == faddish design?

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Post by jquery »

supportengineer wrote: post #268
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From what I’ve heard, trucks are huge now due to various fuel efficiency regulations. A big truck is easier to make with fewer regulations. It seems like all the electric trucks want to prove they are bigger and tougher than the ICE trucks, but it seems like the perfect platform for small trucks, as the the efficiency standards would become a moot point. I’m looking for trucks like the old Ford Ranger from the late 9…

If it weighs over 6000 pounds and you have a small business, you can completely write off 100% of the purchase in one year.

Technically you also have to use it more than 50% of the time for business.

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Post by caconym_ »

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Reminds me of this article I saw recently: https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/a45688551/2023-tesla-mo... > The result is terrifying. Both terrifying to drive, and terrifying to realize that these things are out on the road, in the hands of a public I don't trust enough to handle this sort of power. Up on Angeles Crest, the Plaid is incredibly quick, but it doesn't have the chassis, steering, or brakes to deal with…

> pigheaded vanity of adult children. It is fucking disgusting. Presumably you suggest we also banish unhealthy food, cigarettes, weed, and alcohol, right? They are all responsible for significant deaths (especially when combined with any kind of driving) and are only for fun

Addiction and substance abuse are complicated topics, but ideally somebody partaking of tobacco, drugs, or alcohol is aware of the risk to their own person of doing so, and has freely chosen to partake regardless. Unfortunately, though I'm well aware of the mortal danger excessively large and powerful personal vehicles pose to me and my family on the road, the only ways I can opt out of that danger are to a) not drive (edit: or walk, or cycle, or...) on public roads, or b) drive a very large and heavy vehicle myself, thus putting yet more people in mortal danger. Neither is acceptable.

In short, yours is not a good analogy because the danger posed by the use of harmful addictive substances is to the self, while the danger posed by driving an F-450 XLT Cummings Power Stroke 8.0 Liter Ranch King Harley Davidson Edition is to others.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by operatingthetan »

starcraft2wol wrote: post #674
threeseed wrote: post #303

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You are free to do whatever you like. And others are free to do what they like. Which for most people includes making judgements about who you are based on the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the style of haircut etc. And buying a Cybertruck does imply that you either (a) agree with or (b) are ambivalent about Musk's behaviour.

> And buying a Cybertruck does imply that you either (a) agree with or (b) are ambivalent about Musk's behaviour. Do you do a regular check on the CEOs of all the products you buy?

Other companies' CEOs haven't intentionally intertwined their politics and their public image in quite the same way Musk has.
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