US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire • Hacker News Board

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 7:45 AM UTC

intended wrote: post #723

refurb wrote: post #683

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This is in no way a win for Iran. Hundreds of regime leadership is gone. Massive destruction of infrastructure. Bombed all their neighbors who weren’t even at war with them. Pushed those same neighbors into closer partnership with Israel and the US. Now the regime is severely weakened.

This would make sense if the regime command structure had apparently not designed itself for this exact type of conflict. They were in a fight, took losses, and made significant gains. They proved their planning was correct, that the distributed nature of their power grid was correct, that they are able to project force and genuinely destabilize the strait. Things have been proven that were previously uncertain, and…

Admittedly, this is the interesting part. Ukraine via its leader apparently did try to reach US in exchange for money, but, and there stories get confused, was ignored. I have to wonder if Trump has some actual fixed winners table in his mind ( because he does not seem to follow the most optimal path ).

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by 01100011 » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 7:48 AM UTC

dismalaf wrote: post #572

holografix wrote: post #554

This is basically a win for Iran. 1. They replaced the decrepit Khameini with a much younger and more formidable Khameini. 2. “Pulled a Ukraine” vs the US showing defiance and have now rallied any wavering regime supporters against the American and Jewish “devils”. 3. Reminded the anti regime population that they’re not going anywhere and that the US can’t help them. 4. Showed everyone in the ME and the world that if…

There will be a 2 week ceasefire, western countries will move ships out of the straight, the Saudis will reroute oil, the 10 point plan is idiotic and the US will have an easy excuse to resume bombing them.

I don't think we know if the ceasefire will hold or if it's another attempt by trump at strategic delay/deception, but remember that the strait carries a lot more than oil and those things cannot be transported via a pipeline.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by ZeroGravitas » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 7:50 AM UTC

tristanj wrote: post #625

karim79 wrote: post #614

This is Israel's "business as usual" stuff. Mowing the lawn, fake ceasefire, distraction, expansion and greater Israel project let's go! stuff. Stretch goal is to make Iran a failed state. Primary goal is distraction from the very real annexation of Palestinian and Lebanese territories, one war crime at a time.

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People really love this "might makes right" stuff till it's their civilians being killed in large numbers, then suddenly it's a problem.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by cm2187 » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 7:50 AM UTC

smallmancontrov wrote: post #320

Aloisius wrote: post #260

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Iran's semi-official Mehr News Agency (via China's state news agency Xinhua[0]) claims the 10 points are: 1. U.S. commitment to ensure no further acts of aggression 2. Continued Iranian control of the Strait of Hormuz 3. Acceptance of Iran's nuclear enrichment rights 4. Lifting of all primary sanctions 5. Lifting of all secondary sanctions 6. Termination of all United Nations Security Council resolutions against Iran…

The Ayatollah Booth is egg on the US's face regardless, but $2M/ship is about $1/barrel for perspective. Spot price is $95/barrel right now.

Not convinced it will happen. What would prevent Saudi Arabia from retaliating and introducing a special fee on all ships coming from Iran. It's not like intercepting those massive cargo ships in a small sea is of any difficulty for a well funded military.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by sieabahlpark » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 7:53 AM UTC

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #743

tristanj wrote: post #625

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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People really love this "might makes right" stuff till it's their civilians being killed in large numbers, then suddenly it's a problem.

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Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by jack_eosnci » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 7:55 AM UTC

karim79 wrote: post #614

This is Israel's "business as usual" stuff. Mowing the lawn, fake ceasefire, distraction, expansion and greater Israel project let's go! stuff. Stretch goal is to make Iran a failed state. Primary goal is distraction from the very real annexation of Palestinian and Lebanese territories, one war crime at a time.

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Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by dogemaster2026 » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 7:55 AM UTC

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Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by throwaw12 » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 7:59 AM UTC

jack_eosnci wrote: post #746

karim79 wrote: post #614

This is Israel's "business as usual" stuff. Mowing the lawn, fake ceasefire, distraction, expansion and greater Israel project let's go! stuff. Stretch goal is to make Iran a failed state. Primary goal is distraction from the very real annexation of Palestinian and Lebanese territories, one war crime at a time.

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> reason and evidence

It was upvoted by so many people actually because of reason and evidence.

Also, please stop using race card, no one is blaming a race, people are pointing out to the country who is carrying out these cruelties and majority of government supporting it and majority of army is executing the commands

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Post by blurbleblurble » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 7:59 AM UTC

jack_eosnci wrote: post #746

karim79 wrote: post #614

This is Israel's "business as usual" stuff. Mowing the lawn, fake ceasefire, distraction, expansion and greater Israel project let's go! stuff. Stretch goal is to make Iran a failed state. Primary goal is distraction from the very real annexation of Palestinian and Lebanese territories, one war crime at a time.

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