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Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

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If you're looking to scale, then you're looking for companies that scale, and if you're looking for companies that scale, you're not looking for angels. I used to think Cloudflare was an exception to this belief but today I'm not so sure.

Wait what's wrong with Cloudflare?

https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/12/cloudflare_vs_italy/

Definitely my bias here so take it with a grain of salt. I still use cloudflare and I'd probably still work for them.

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

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I'm not sure if companies understand the emotional impact on the laid off and the layoff survivors. It almost seems like a terror campaign, whether intended or not.

Yes in my (somewhat tinfoil) opinion the point is to have an emotional impact on the workforce overall (or at least, one of the points is). Tech workers had a really good 20 years in the US, and kind of forgot that they were ultimately still wage workers. I think the culture circa 2018 took for granted a basic level of respect and cooperation from upper executives, and were beginning to exercise their power to achiev…

Or the current crop of companies has just ossified and are waiting for a disrupter to kill them. You can’t get that big and be around for that long without having the original culture die, it seems. This isn’t the first wave of companies this sort of thing has happened to, is it?

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

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It wasn't just Apple, in the late 90s/early 2000s there was a not insignificant number of folks in business/academia who thought Java would take over the world. Windows XP also shipped with an embedded JVM for running Java apps out of the box at one stage too, just before Microsoft doubled down on c#/.NET. Along with MacOS X, Apple's Xcode IDE even had native java project support briefly in this era as well.

Java really could have taken over the world, and it can be performant, too. One of the versions of the most popular game in the world is written in Java, and it's quite capable of being very fast.

Are you talking about minecraft? Minecraft was known for working only because it is so simple graphically compared to other games. It was said to allocate and deallocate hundreds of megabyte of memory every frame.

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

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And just like that, another US tech becoming a Kodak.

MySQL is no longer the only choice for database, MariaDB is fully open-source.

VMWare, there are far better options like Proxmox, build a Proxmox server using second hand Dell PC you find in bulk on eBay, increase the memory, add GPU passthrough and you are golden.

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

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What larger procurement teams are saying is "we would rather pay Accenture+Anthropic $50M for 2 years and if they fail, sign a $75M contract with Epic in 3 years instead of spending $150M for 5 years". Even at the lower ends of the funnel, companies are now extracting significant discounts from market leaders as well as their incumbent vendors becuase they are quote shopping. Oracle isn't in a position to push back b…

Who in the healthcare space has actually pulled the trigger on Accenture+Anthropic so that BATNA is even remotely credible? Sorry, but that sounds as mythical as Bigfoot.

No one has, but every buyer is using this line across vast swathes of Enterprise SaaS to extract the most competitive quote available from either the dominant player or their existing vendor.

It doesn't matter if the customer is serious because the general sentiment across the board amongst procurement teams is that existing quotes are too high, and that they want to maximize discounting where possible.

If you are a non-dominant player in a market segment as Oracle is in ERP and EHR, you lack leeway to better manage margins pressures and win in a price war.

It is in this vein that mass layoffs like the one Oracle announced occur.

Why pay a premium for a tier 2 product when I can buy the tier 1 product on a discount?

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

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More victims of AI. Not actually of "AI is replacing jobs", more "oh shit we are spending too much and the product isn't good enough for us to ever make a return on our absurd over-investment".

This isn’t ai, this is the Ellison family gambling on their awful multibillion dollar deal to acquire Warner.

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

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My Amazon layoff notice came at 5am. Same deal. I thought it was fake because it came to my personal email. Then I logged into my work computer and found that all my email had been erased except for a copy of the layoff notice and an invite to a 10am Zoom with HR. The funny part was the invite had everyone who had been laid off in the To: line. I was able to send internal only emails until 1pm, and then it logged me…

Boomers wonder why current generations don’t give a shit about corporate life anymore. One of the many examples.

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

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post #557

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> Enlighten me on what I would use Oracle Oracle buys smaller enterprise companies with rich customers that were already using Oracle DB, or makes them rely on it, then cashes in on licensing. So for example, they bought Micros (most EFTPOS terminals in the world are powered by them, I think), they bought Cerner (big supplier of IT to healthcare companies), they bought PeopleSoft. If your big company isn't using SAP,…

Your phone calls and SMS messages that touch the phone network, likely touch Oracle. Yes, nearly all of them. For a tech-adjacent example of an acquisition of an entrenched supplier, look at Tekelec, a telecom hardware and software vendor which Oracle purchased in 2013[1]. Tekelec had a number of products but Oracle really cared about one: the EAGLE family, which is a suite of hardware and software for handling netwo…

Isn't SS7 going away?

It's not used in 4G/5G; Diameter is used instead. Most cellular telcos are ending or planning to end their 2G/3G networks (3G moreso than 2G). In the US, the FCC continues to push for IP-only networks, and AT&T is turning off their landline services (though they keep pushing out the date, it's currently at 2029). Obviously, the US is not the only country, but this seems to be the global direction.

Nonetheless, I can imagine that Oracle will still worm its way into telco recordkeeping and billing systems even if the protocol changes...

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

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The bulk of the comments in here are focused on comparing Larry Ellison to a lawn mower, so I'll try a new tack and say that I'm genuinely confused at what the value prop of Oracle is. Given the history of their business model being licensing of important databases that are hard to switch off of, I've actually made a point to avoid using Oracle as much as possible (even so far as to leave MySQL when they acquired it,…

> Enlighten me on what I would use Oracle Oracle buys smaller enterprise companies with rich customers that were already using Oracle DB, or makes them rely on it, then cashes in on licensing. So for example, they bought Micros (most EFTPOS terminals in the world are powered by them, I think), they bought Cerner (big supplier of IT to healthcare companies), they bought PeopleSoft. If your big company isn't using SAP,…

Oracle used to have EBS which competed primarily in SCM/Procurement (or ERP) domain.

They acquired the leaders in HCM (PeopleSoft) and CRM (Siebel) domains and combined them all (SCM, HCM, CRM) into a single (new) product called Fusion.

Their pitch also was - PeopleSoft and Siebel required people with different skill sets (PeopleCode for PeopleSoft, Siebel eScript for Siebel); but with Fusion, customization would not require any programming language knowledge and in the rare cases that it did, you just needed Java. This meant it was cheaper for enterprises. This was a big selling point for a lot of enterprises and helped them reduce their IT cost.

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