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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by andai »

noduerme wrote: post #428
alemanek wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

I second this. I really enjoy reading and writing on an Onyx e-ink tab, and I like the full Android functionality, but I can never use it for work or even for personal email logins, because I don't trust their custom Android build. I would be somewhat more inclined to trust Daylight than Onyx, but any custom OS is too potentially vulnerable to backdoors for my use cases. Something like this that you could load your o…

How much customization is needed for a device like this?

Drivers?

I'd think most of it would come down to a custom launcher. Though I guess they also modify the UI?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by LoganDark »

wuschel wrote: post #538
Kichererbsen wrote: post #530

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yes, academia should totally love this, but my experience is that they just all got used to reading papers on their laptops or tablets. but I would totally love this. in fact, I have a remarkable tablet just for reading "papers" ( ahem Dungeons & Dragons PDFs). but switching quickly between pages is tricky there...

That depends. Back in the day, in my research institute, it was common practice to print out the papers that should be read thoroughly - after skimming them on a Laptop screen.

There's only a certain number of papers you can carry around and flip through like that. With a tablet, it can store hundreds or thousands of papers without getting any more unwieldy.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by smidds »

smikhanov wrote: post #648

Who makes this? "About" section has 5 (five) words of waffle in it, their ToS is buried and doesn't give any indication of what this company is, except the name, phone number and governing jurisdiction (CA). Their "founder" in comments here is a newly registered HN account.

CEO appears to be Anjan Katta (https://www.linkedin.com/in/anjan-katta-250b232b4/), and the company is listed as a Public Benefit Corporation on their website.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by freedomben »

manoweb wrote: post #460
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

The product looks very good. However I did NOT like the marketing claim on the front page that points out it is "blue-light free". The claim that blue light is harmful is not really that scientifically proven and if one has blue light at home (awful LED fixtures) this device will happily reflect it, will it not? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I love building light fixtures and 3000K low voltage halogen light, which…

I don't think it needs blue light to be harmful for that to be a feature. I personally don't know or care if it's "harmful," but I know that it messes up my sleep cycles so I try to avoid it before bed and especially during the night.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by omegabravo »

kernal wrote: post #739
alemanek wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

>Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. I can only imagine how much tougher a Windows sell would be to your employer.

Their employer likely has absolute control over their Windows install. My personal Windows laptop isn't allowed on the corporate network either.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by kernal »

parhamn wrote: post #356
dmicah wrote: post #220

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The Boox Palma doesn't have a cell connection but is a phone-sized Android based e-paper tablet.

I've never owned an android, but for any android folks: how do you all think about device security/privacy when the manufacture is relatively unknown and overseas? I really wanted to get one, but didn't know the risks associated with this.

>how do you all think about device security/privacy when the manufacture is relatively unknown and overseas?

Find out their update policy. I wouldn't buy a device not matching or exceeding 7 years of OS upgrades / Security patches.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by freedomben »

nathan_compton wrote: post #608
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

If it doesn't run linux, its not a computer.

It runs Android (which uses linux).

Steelmanning though, I imagine you are saying somethign like "if I can't load my own linux distribution on it, then it's not a computer" then I very much agree. OP has said elsewhere in the thread that they will provide bootloader unlocking and you can put LineageOS or whatever you want on it! For me that was the last thing I needed to get me to buy.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by xandrius »

cookiengineer wrote: post #513

This is really a nice product, but I won't order it unless SolOS and its firmware and drivers are open sourced. I've probably spent far more than 8000 bucks over the years for devices like this, only to have to throw them away eventually because their software got abandoned and they've been so proprietary that they can only function as an expensive brick on the shelf. If the software is closed source, I'd recommend e…

I support this motion.

I'd definitely splurge on this bur I want to actually own the device if anything goes wrong with the company.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by cdrini »

robxorb wrote: post #649
meisenhus wrote: post #505

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Publishing a sped-up video without telling us that it's sped up really killed all my trust I had in you guys. Seriously, what were you thinking? Your main and only selling point is the speed. So much so that that needs to compensate for lack of other features like resolution and color. And then you open the door to cheating accusations? You can now 100x say that it's really fast and no ghosting and all that, but your…

Killed my trust also, "drowning in launch" is no excuse for not rectifying this immediately. Posting a real-time video right now would take five minutes and clear up all this bad publicity right when they need to.

The page where the videos are from isn't meant to be marketing material. It's a documentation page for people who already have the tablet -- the page says "Welcome to Your Daylight Computer". I personally have no qualms if some of the videos there are sped up, and it has no bearing on my trust of the company.

If you want the promotional videos actually advertising/backing the display claims, check out the main website: https://daylightcomputer.com/product . If you do find evidence that the video there is sped up, I agree with you it's a bad look. But the videos look pretty clearly not sped up based on the human motion.

Regardless there will be third party videos popping on YouTube soon, as the parent comment says.

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