3 years of updates? Meh
Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone
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#742And it comes with a 3mm headphone jack! Hallelujah!! I’m so, so glad someone is stepping up to fill this niche. My only complaint, and it’s kind if a big one, is that the screen is too damn big. I’m tired of phone manufacturers forcing me to carry a television in my pocket. I want something small that I can hold in one hand without a pop socket. I’ll trade performance, camera quality, basically anything for a phone w…
I jumped from apple because at the time, all they had were $1000 giant phones. I jumped back because they released the SE, and my current motorolla was having quite a lot of issues, and I couldn't find anything smaller.
I still have it, and don't plan on buying anything new until I can either 1. get an iphone mini with a usb C jack or 2. find a competitor that's similar sized.
I'm so so sick of these massive phones.
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No. I have nothing against choice, I just want the best phone, and it's not this. If only there were a thriving set of standards for mobile/desktop web apps that obviates the need to stick to the iPhone/Android OS duopoly cemented by their app stores, I'd probably change phones.
You just want the best phone? Why not a phone that does the things you want and need? Why the best? The best of today is gone tomorrow. The best phone last year is not the best things year. The worst phone this year is better than the best phone 10 years ago. How long are you going to try to keep up the mirage of having the best? Every new phone release must cause massive panic
I mean the best phone for myself. That happens to be a first-gen iPhone SE at the moment, but I'd be ok with whatever iPhone, and I don't care how repairable it is.
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Headphone jack and OLED display are my only two musts on a new smart phone. Wireless earbuds are scam solution by the problem created by removing the jack. But I really can't go back to IPS on any display in my life where the experience and color matter.
Wired earbuds are obnoxious for phone use cases because the cables get tangled up and cause telephonics - that's when walking/running/touching the cable causes it to send unintended sound into your ears. For desktop use cases they have the problem that you have to take them off to get up.
Oddly covid made me finally just give up and get wireless headphones, simply because i'd go to take off the mask and catch my headphones.
Well that and the struggle of finding half decent headphones that fit my needs (decent enough they wouldn't die in a year, but not so expensive i'm going to regret it if they get damaged or lost).
I still hate that I now have headphones that can die, but it is nice to be able to walk around listening to whatever without having to carry my phone on me while I cook/clean/whatever. Not what i paid for them nice....but it's something.
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And they hated him because he spoke the truth. Phones being disposable is something we just accepted. A POTS phone bought in the 1890’s would work without modification until the 1990’s and still will work today with an adapter. Why? Because we didn’t have continuous protocol churn. If it was invented today in 2 years there would POTS/2, KETTLE, and a draft spec for POTS2.1 written on a used napkin but somehow already…
> Do y’all not long for a future where you can get off the upgrade treadmill because the developer facing API is fixed? Not backwards compatible because that implies you ought to be moving to the next, like once it works you can call it done. No. We want modern APIs that prioritize modern concerns, usable with modern toolkits and frameworks and taking advantage of modern programming principles. Even if we had an API…
But you forgot to mention how this requires ignoring the old devices. Can X11 replacement not work on old hardware? What critical improvement in POSIX would mandate the same?
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#746Does anyone notice the irony of it being partly repairable, while offering just three years of security updates, after which you basically have to throw the thing away? The repairability sounds nice, but it is very irrelevant compared to the limited software updates. Imagine buying a Windows laptop and only receiving three years of security updates. (I know, most other phones aren't better.) It would have been better…
Is that risky have an unsupported Android version? My Nexus 5 still working ok, some problems started when apps started to drop support of the Android version, and that happens several years before it stopped receiving OS updates. Don't want to downplay that will be great that OS updates should be longer that the current standard, but sometimes tech minded people here in HN thinks that a day after stopped receiving u…
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#747Who repairs a 180€ phone that is slow out of the box with an old version of Android?
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#748Why does Nokia's website then say that the battery is non-removable? https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/nokia-g-22/specs?sku=101...
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#749Earlier quoted context omitted.
Headphone jack and OLED display are my only two musts on a new smart phone. Wireless earbuds are scam solution by the problem created by removing the jack. But I really can't go back to IPS on any display in my life where the experience and color matter.
I hate removal of 3.5mm port same as you, but wireless earbuds are not a scam per se. I have some Sony buds which have great sound and there's no more a minute of untangling cable whenever I take them from the bag. However, that's not the reason to not have headphone jack since it has other uses and can perfectly coexist with bluetooth devices.
I bought the XM3s to try out a while back when my old laptop lacked a jack and offerings for a good OLED are slim in my country, but these headphones just don't sound very good--especially for the price. My IEM cables are thick and don't tangle. I would take untangling 100% over dealing with batteries. I thought ANC would be better than it was, but the passive noise canceling is just as good in real world use--just eliminating low-frequency sounds isn't too useful when you can hear the crying baby either way.
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you want a watch (wrist or pocket)
Does a standalone cellular watch exist (as a daily driver for everything you’d expect in that form factor)?
You have full Android phones in a watch, but it's much closer to an emergency backup phone than something you want to use daily.
I keep mine in Sports mode, which is basically just a smart watch , most of the time