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Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by Kinrany »

blocked_again wrote: post #682
mjamil wrote: post #608

I'm in a post-Thanksgiving charitable mood, so thank you, Jack. The execution hasn't been perfect (as has been commented on ad nauseam), but Twitter is the closest to a worldwide-accessible [1] Speaker's Corner [2] I know of, and that - despite all the completely valid criticism - is a valuable public service: mediating access to information has been the defining tool of control for those in power pretty much since c…

> FWIW, you've also championed transparency and decentralization for your platform more than any other SV social media titan Twitter don't even have an RSS feed let alone championing decentralisation.

They at least talk about decentralization. This definitely qualifies as more than any other comparably large social media.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by egypturnash »

riffic wrote: post #593
Spooky23 wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the first change will be the redemption of a certain political figure.

why bother. certain political figure has their own Mastodon installation now.

...which was discussed on the #fediblock tag as soon as it went up, with a lot of admins who set up their own Mastodons because they were sick of that guy constantly showing up on Twitter immediately defederating from that particular instance.

Being able to block entire instances is a really, really nice power.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by koheripbal »

snarkypixel wrote: post #736
snarkypixel wrote: post #659

There's zero explanation in the email for why he resigned. He's re-iterating the point that the company is fine moving forward with the rest of the board, the new CEO and the existing team, but no actual reason as to why he left.

Replying to my own comment, but if I had to guess (on absolutely zero context and evidence :p), I would say he wants to focus on crypto/Square, and Twitter is more of a time sink. Twitter is in a good enough state at the moment that the team can move without him so it's a good moment to leave.

The 10% appreciation of the shares as a result of him leaving is reason enough. He's still a big shareholder.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by oceanplexian »

rexreed wrote: post #735
taurath wrote: post #732

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Automated ad networks still require a lot of engineering and relationship management

What's the usual ratio of engineering / relationship management per ad dollar revenue?

Investors have priced the company at a market cap of $36.8 Billion, so approx. $6.8M per employee. I guess you could subtract their assets and IP but I doubt it will change the figure much.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by fullshark »

badRNG wrote: post #616
will4274 wrote: post #464

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parent is saying that these platforms cater to left leaning reactionaries ("social justice warriors"), and that people on the opposite side (conservatives) are far more restricted, but most of the criticism comes from those same left leaning reactionaries about the sites not further restricting the already-restricted side.

What is it that conservatives are not able to say on Twitter due to restrictions?

There's this: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/medical-misin...

Also this: https://www.businessinsider.com/jack-dorsey-ny-post-remains-...

Zero hedge was locked: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-bans-zero-hedge-coronav...

Trump was deplatformed of course, so everything he has to say.

Search through this for examples, I see a lot of ctrl-F "right" results fwiw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_suspensions

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by koheripbal »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #259

It will be interesting to see how Twitter changes as a result. Twitter with selective following and setting your timeline to 'time order' creates a pretty good environment for me. It feels like the equivalent of living in only a few chosen 'subreddits' rather than getting the full frontal reddit experience.

There's just too much noise - not nearly enough signal.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by clairity »

hitpointdrew wrote: post #717
snarkypixel wrote: post #659

There's zero explanation in the email for why he resigned. He's re-iterating the point that the company is fine moving forward with the rest of the board, the new CEO and the existing team, but no actual reason as to why he left.

Welcome to public relations. This is par for the course, ask a politician a question get a non-answer, ask an NFL coach about the next game “They are a good team, we have to practice hard.” It’s all just talking without really saying anything.

yes, that's the downside of the 'iterated game' dynamic: the desire to minimize leaks of future strategy. the upside, of course, is fewer defections/betrayals. it's one of the reasons we need independent journalism in society not beholden to moneyed/political interests. unfortunately, just about every news outlet, including npr, has been subverted at this point.

here's hoping jack actually believes in sacrificing money and power to defect out of this information oligopoly, though i'm skeptical as those forces are irresistable to most humans.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by simonebrunozzi »

A few reflections on this announcement.

1) Remember that CEOs of public companies are essentially unable to say what they think or want. The cost of doing it is being sued for damages, having to spend countless hours with lawyers, etc. Jack might think X, but he's only allowed to say Y, and he doesn't want to go beyond that because he doesn't want to fight that fight.

Only people in a close circle really know what's going on, and it's most certainly not random people on the Internet (or HN).

2) Also, consider that Twitter, and perhaps Facebook (sorry but I don't give a sh*t that its new name is Meta), are really difficult companies to run, especially if you'd like to do some public good, as opposed to just maximizing returns.

There are so many things that can go wrong, so many other things that will set your company on fire without warnings, and that doesn't give people the time to think strategically on how to tackle certain difficult scenarios.

Twitter and Facebook essentially control most of the public discourse these days; never seen such amount of power in the hands of a few companies.

3) Despite common opinion, I actually think that Twitter (unlike Facebook) has done more good than harm. Why? Because it has essentially enabled an incredible explosion of "voices" that can be heard (err, read) all over the world.

4) Yes, we can think of countless ways to make Twitter better, but remember that Twitter is not run by Jack Dorsey, nor that other companies are run by their CEOs. Companies are run by boards, which means, by large funds with controlling interest in these companies. Even a well-intentioned CEO has to fight against many things his/her board want. And unlike enlightened CEOs, enlightened boards are essentially a very rare creature, almost never seen on planet Earth (IMHO).

5) You might think I'm defending Jack, perhaps I am, but it might be because hatred is really easy to dispense, while trying to be balanced in your judgement is really hard, and perhaps the conversation about Twitter should benefit from cooler heads, as opposed to quick slogans.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by emerged »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #259

It will be interesting to see how Twitter changes as a result. Twitter with selective following and setting your timeline to 'time order' creates a pretty good environment for me. It feels like the equivalent of living in only a few chosen 'subreddits' rather than getting the full frontal reddit experience.

Society is going through a learning process in understanding the value of scope in our social environments. If you simply connect all the nodes into a gigantic hyper graph you get a constantly evolving shithole.

It’s like programming using only global variables.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by rexreed »

oceanplexian wrote: post #744
rexreed wrote: post #735

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the usual ratio of engineering / relationship management per ad dollar revenue?

Investors have priced the company at a market cap of $36.8 Billion, so approx. $6.8M per employee. I guess you could subtract their assets and IP but I doubt it will change the figure much.

That doesn't make sense. Employees per revenue is not measured by market cap, but by revenue. Revenue was $3.7B as last reported. So you're 10x off by that measure. Also, not all employees are engineering and ad relationship management.
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