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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by tekacs »

SahAssar wrote: post #550
tekacs wrote: post #547

One thing that I would watch out for with _all_ OpenAI products is that they use Keychain's Access Control lists to encrypt data such that _you_ cannot unlock or access it. It's a change that they made to 'fix' this issue: https://pvieito.com/2024/07/chatgpt-unprotected-conversation... The net effect however is that if you use their apps, you can get data _in_, but you can only get it _out_ in ways that their apps th…

> More context: https://chatgpt.com/share/68f82df3-74f0-8012-9bfe-de89a4e75e... Are you using chatgpt to factcheck what chatgpt does on your computer?

I... am using it to have it indict itself, yes?

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by cleak »

cleak wrote: post #508
ahdada8 wrote: post #492

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There is! If you click on the three dots menu of a response, there is a “Branch in new chat” option. I just discovered it today and feel like it’s new.

It isn’t present on mobile (at least on iOS) unfortunately. I use it all the time on the web though, and it’s very useful.

And now it's gone on web this morning. I'm not sure if something in the conversation blocks it or if it's part of some A/B test.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by whycome »

ryanwhitney wrote: post #601
whycome wrote: post #402

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The whole integration thing is weird. Siri sucks. ChatGPT can be triggered in a similar way. Siri can use ChatGPT. AppleIntelligence is garbage. I think apple is in a weird crisis spot where they can't quite figure out how to integrate it all, and are scared of ditching Siri entirely. Or maybe any kinds of ChatGPT integrations have just been stopgaps. Or, they go way deeper into integrations. They let ChatGPT in deep…

> Siri sucks. I’m surely in a niche group here, but I’m appreciating Siri more and more. It’s a mostly competent tool for basic operations and simple questions. For something I interact with over audio, I’ll choose that over a bullshit machine any day of the week.

That's interesting. It has literally gotten worse over time. The same queries that were fine earlier now fail or go wrong. Too often it fails with basically "I can't do that" but not explain why.

A tool like that shouldn't just be "mostly competent" -- the failures just mean it's not worth the time to try (i might as well use another guaranteed tool rather than the coin flip and time sink of asking siri).

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by ncr100 »

badlogic wrote: post #226
ncr100 wrote: post #52

Could this be an Extension, for Chrome / Firefox / Edge / and others ? Are these extension-fodder: - "new tab" shows custom UI with LLM prompt - Reads contents of user's web page in Chat UI, shown alongside web page - new UI gizmo at Text-selection, showing ChatGPT flower icon, with context features available for selected text - maintains "agent personality / context" (IDK the term) across tabs

Yes, the only reason they are building a browser is to gobble up more data. https://x.com/badlogicgames/status/1980698199649317287

Yikes!

Market capture, again. :sigh: It's such a common motivator for digital (-adjacent) product decisions in business these days.

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Post by mvieira38 »

ragequittah wrote: post #422
mvieira38 wrote: post #365

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> And most of the steps people do to mitigate privacy violations (TOR, pihole, VPNs, etc.) probably make any signal you do put out more scrutinized. If you're using them correctly there is no way to scrutinize your traffic more, these comments just spread FUD for no good reason. How are "they" unable to catch darkweb criminals for years and even decades, but somehow can tell if it's me browsing reddit over Tor?

My take: if you do it correctly you're a very small minority of people and most would probably be concerned at your level of paranoia if you told them every detail of your setup. Turns out opsec is pretty difficult to achieve. Also unless you're a criminal you're probably wasting a lot of time for no real gain. I use a pihole, ublock, a vpn for some devices, and I'm using my own OPNSense router w/ very strict setting…

And if you do follow these arrests you'll notice that it's old-fashioned investigations that catch them, by tracing behavior, log in times, etc. The comment I was answering was implying you lose anonymity by using these tools, which you don't

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by ryanwhitney »

nasmorn wrote: post #714
dyauspitr wrote: post #647

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Siri does nothing except set timers. It is completely useless.

We use it to play music in the car on Spotify sometimes. While it is really bad ad this we found out it mishears quite reliably so there are now some crazy things that I would have never played myself that my family has heard in the car. This has brought a lot of joy to some mundane drives. But when I am alone on a run I really wished it would just work because without someone else to laugh about it, it really sucks

That's funny you mention that—very similar experience here. My partner and I often get a laugh out of the strange occasional errors. Things like responding with "…huh?", and then completing the task.

I'd rather see a robot fail rather than eat the world and fill it with trash. But the running use case does sound very annoying!

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Post by vivzkestrel »

sindriava wrote: post #681
vivzkestrel wrote: post #599

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google is gonna wait for them to burn every cent of that 500 billion dollars and then when no more investors are interested in funding open AI, the entire AI bubble ll collapse. Why? because the LLMs have already hit their limits. There aint no AGI coming as GPT 6. You can tell because suddenly company focus has shifted to making browsers

> LLMs have already hit their limits This is the most profoundly idiotic sentiment to ever come out of the AI discourse. Not only has it been sung for so long that it's been proven wrong mutliple times now, it also pulls the strawman of the century because NO ONE working in frontier AI labs is pushing the narrative that "we don't need anything to change to reach AGI". You can stick your head in the sand all you want,…

https://manuelmoreale.com/thoughts/look-another-ai-browser not what vast majority of the people on HN say

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by vivzkestrel »

sindriava wrote: post #681
vivzkestrel wrote: post #599

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google is gonna wait for them to burn every cent of that 500 billion dollars and then when no more investors are interested in funding open AI, the entire AI bubble ll collapse. Why? because the LLMs have already hit their limits. There aint no AGI coming as GPT 6. You can tell because suddenly company focus has shifted to making browsers

> LLMs have already hit their limits This is the most profoundly idiotic sentiment to ever come out of the AI discourse. Not only has it been sung for so long that it's been proven wrong mutliple times now, it also pulls the strawman of the century because NO ONE working in frontier AI labs is pushing the narrative that "we don't need anything to change to reach AGI". You can stick your head in the sand all you want,…

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/the-last-few-months-have-b... nope

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by iknowstuff »

snavwop wrote: post #509

Most comments here oscillate between “cool tech” and “surveillance nightmare,” but that’s been true for every major platform shift — search, mobile, cloud. The real question is governance: who defines what the assistant can see, store, or act on? The tech is trivial compared to the trust layer. Also worth noting: Atlas only exists because Chrome and Safari refused to give third-party AIs deep tab access. Build walls,…

> Atlas only exists because Chrome and Safari refused to give third-party AIs deep tab access. Build walls, get competitors.

This is a great point.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by dyauspitr »

worldsavior wrote: post #659
dyauspitr wrote: post #639

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The people getting dumber thing is going to be very real. For any kind of analysis, any document writing, any sort of creative work really I immediately pull out chatGPT and then maybe refine its output. The kids are never going to learn how to do most of these things.

That's not good behavior in my opinion. Where's the hard work so you can get yourself some dopamine?

Well yeah, I don’t personally care I’m almost at my FIRE number but it’s going to be devastating for a lot of people just getting into college/their first jobs.
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