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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by sindriava »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #599
6thbit wrote: post #324

ChatGPT quickly became a replacement for google search in many usecases, now it is coming for Chrome's lunch. What's going to be google's response here? They can't afford to lose dominance in these markets, surely they're coming after Ads next.

google is gonna wait for them to burn every cent of that 500 billion dollars and then when no more investors are interested in funding open AI, the entire AI bubble ll collapse. Why? because the LLMs have already hit their limits. There aint no AGI coming as GPT 6. You can tell because suddenly company focus has shifted to making browsers

> LLMs have already hit their limits

This is the most profoundly idiotic sentiment to ever come out of the AI discourse. Not only has it been sung for so long that it's been proven wrong mutliple times now, it also pulls the strawman of the century because NO ONE working in frontier AI labs is pushing the narrative that "we don't need anything to change to reach AGI". You can stick your head in the sand all you want, progress is happening and it's not slowing down as of yet. Your knowledge of AI being limited to talking to chatbots doesn't change a thing.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by Vinnl »

thewebguyd wrote: post #545
granzymes wrote: post #279

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Being able to search browser history with natural language is the feature I am most excited for. I can't count the number of times I've spent >10 minutes looking for a link from 5 months ago that I can describe the content of but can't remember the title.

Isn’t this what Recall in Windows 11 is trying to solve, and everyone got super up in arms over it? I have no horse in the race either way, but I do find it funny how HN will swoon over a feature from one company and criticize to no end that same feature from another company just because of who made it. At least Recall is on-device only, both the database and the processing.

> I do find it funny how HN will swoon over a feature from one company and criticize to no end that same feature from another company

It's pretty easy to explain if you assume that HN consists of multiple people with varying opinions.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by phatfish »

mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

Firefox has a page summary using a local LLM, not the same as the full data mining the "Atlas" thing does though.

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/ai-tech/ai-link-previ...

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by midasz »

viking123 wrote: post #651
bobviolier wrote: post #439

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I just don't get this. Google has SO MANY THINGS that are US only. While most other companies release things to everyone (like OpenAI). How does Google expect to compete with OpenAI globally if they keep limitting the rest of the world?

They don't, the Gemini crap is dead in the water and only people who care about it are hackernews people or some weirdos. For normies ChatGPT equals AI and that's that, they already won by the brand alone. When normies hear Gemini, they cringe and get that icky feeling. It didn't help that when Gemini came out it was giving you black founding fathers and Asian nazis.

My dad uses Gemini because it's the default thingy on his android phone - I asked him if he used ChatGPT and he said yes and navigated to Gemini. Most people really don't care that much I think.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by latexr »

visarga wrote: post #551
bogwog wrote: post #35

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What value? I haven't used them myself, but from reviews I've seen on Youtube they appear to be flaky and not all that useful. It reminds me of when voice assistants like Siri came out, and it turned out that the only thing they were good for was setting timers, controlling music playback, and gimmicky stuff like that.

I think this is the natural endpoint - local models doing something like what Atlas and Codex are doing, acting like a firewall between the user and web. You don't need to wade through the crap online yourself, the AI extracts the useful signal for you, acts like a memory layer for your values and preferences. Don't like the feed ranking - use your agent to extract, filter and rerank by your criteria. Not a big fan o…

> acting like a firewall between the user and web.

A firewall which can set the user on fire.

https://guard.io/labs/scamlexity-we-put-agentic-ai-browsers-...

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Post by FridgeSeal »

mawadev wrote: post #396
PeterFBell wrote: post #377

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With LLMs we're all becoming managers. Good news is we'll get more done. Bad news is that we'll have to get way better at persisting mid-state process status (I sometimes ask my LLM "could you summarize what we were talking about and why"), tracking outstanding tasks (linear for our agents) and jumping between contexts. I am also finding work is becoming more tiring. As I'm able to delegate all the rote stuff I feel…

This message is so alien to me... I fail to see the real world value of any task you described. Aren't we all fooling ourselves at this point?

I'm convinced it's some kind of SV-induced "culture of hyper-productivity", the only apparent goal is to be _more_ productive. Endlessly. There's no goal, or end-state, or reason, other than to just be productive. Downtime? Wasted productivity time! Hobbies? Wasted time unless you can monetise them! Get an AI to do it, and be _even more_ productive!

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by latexr »

bredren wrote: post #374

OpenAI picking up where Apple Intelligence continues to severely lag. I'd prefer these features were bundled into MacOS. Where possible, process using FoundationLLM, and having Apple reach for their own privately hosted instance of a frontier model when needed. It seems obvious to me the company must transform macOS's capabilities here as quality AI assistance is enmeshed in the operating system's UX as a whole. I th…

> I'd prefer these features were bundled into MacOS.

I’d prefer they wouldn’t.

> It seems obvious to me the company must transform macOS's capabilities here as quality AI assistance is enmeshed in the operating system's UX as a whole.

A hundred thousand times no! Today’s Apple is highly incompetent¹ on the software and UX design fronts. They’re making macOS more broken by the release and you want them to screw it up even more with invasive features that they’ve proven they’re not good at? Might as well switch to already.

¹ I believe they could do better if they had more time between releases or smaller scopes. But they don’t do that, so the result is the same.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by melicerte »

mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

> I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf.

Oooh boy, thanks, but no thanks. I don't want a BitTech to know everything about me and my browsing habit.

Yet I wonder how these browser behave when you are visiting your Friday night porn site?

Also, your comment made me think about the fact that free AI is dead in a near feature because it probably is economically unsustainable. Consequently, pay to browse might around the corner. Or ..., like for the for all those social networks, we all be the product. Is AI powered browsers the dead of our freedom ?

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by latexr »

wraptile wrote: post #678
perlgeek wrote: post #667

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I guess they want to do it first where the opportunity for monetization is best.

Is this how they're going to steward AGI as well? Take it to places where monetization is the best first? This is a nonprofit "for good of humanity" company btw

> Is this how they're going to steward AGI as well? Take it to places where monetization is the best first?

Yes! You bet it is. Sam said it so himself. He promised investors they’d make AGI and then ask it how to make money.

https://www.startupbell.net/post/sam-altman-told-investors-b...

They also define AGI as “generates $100 billion in profits”.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-...

> This is a nonprofit "for good of humanity" company btw

But it’s not. They explicitly tried to become a for-profit.

https://www.promarket.org/2025/05/06/openai-abandons-move-to...

Don’t be fooled, Sam and company give zero shits about “the good of humanity”. All they want is money and power.

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