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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by KaiserPro »

ransom1538 wrote: post #711
dreamcompiler wrote: post #707

Every new version of MacOS exhibits four phenomena: 1. Old bugs are not fixed. 2. New bugs are introduced, and I have to spend hours online figuring out workarounds. 3. Old features I depended on are removed, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to replace them. 4. New features I don't need are added and they get in my way, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to disable them. My workflow pr…

Nothing on this list compares to removing an ESC key. That was apple starting to leave reality. I had to buy used laptops for that time period.

As a Vim user, I thought it would be a deal breaker, but it really wasn't that bad.

The rest of the laptop was though.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by rick_dalton »

kkylin wrote: post #476
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

There are also under-the-hood changes that I found truly upsetting: among other things, all the Emacs versions I've tried (stock GNU Emacs or Mac Port, downloaded binary blobs and compiled on my machine) are either immediately unusable or become so slow after a day that they are almost unusable. Tracing things on Instruments suggests a culprit (the culprit?) is NSAutofillHeuristicController. This is not a new feature…

The developer of ghostty had this exact same issue with his terminal. Ironically apple's iCloud password autofill extension on firefox also practically halves my firefox performance. Seems like they haven't figured out autofill yet. https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/commit/b58a761aba75fa...

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by theshrike79 »

ransom1538 wrote: post #711
dreamcompiler wrote: post #707

Every new version of MacOS exhibits four phenomena: 1. Old bugs are not fixed. 2. New bugs are introduced, and I have to spend hours online figuring out workarounds. 3. Old features I depended on are removed, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to replace them. 4. New features I don't need are added and they get in my way, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to disable them. My workflow pr…

Nothing on this list compares to removing an ESC key. That was apple starting to leave reality. I had to buy used laptops for that time period.

If they just put the fancy bar ON TOP of the f-row, we'd still have it.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by ubercore »

ransom1538 wrote: post #711
dreamcompiler wrote: post #707

Every new version of MacOS exhibits four phenomena: 1. Old bugs are not fixed. 2. New bugs are introduced, and I have to spend hours online figuring out workarounds. 3. Old features I depended on are removed, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to replace them. 4. New features I don't need are added and they get in my way, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to disable them. My workflow pr…

Nothing on this list compares to removing an ESC key. That was apple starting to leave reality. I had to buy used laptops for that time period.

You're right about the hubris, but Caps Lock -> Esc is The Way regardless!

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by coldtea »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #707

Every new version of MacOS exhibits four phenomena: 1. Old bugs are not fixed. 2. New bugs are introduced, and I have to spend hours online figuring out workarounds. 3. Old features I depended on are removed, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to replace them. 4. New features I don't need are added and they get in my way, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to disable them. My workflow pr…

1) and 2) are common to all major software releases (whether it's an OS like macOS a DE like Gnome or some complicated program like Photoshop or Blender or something). Inevitable to a degree as you can't fix everything, and you can't ship 100s of thousands of new lines of code without some bugs.

These are only a big problem if those bugs bugs are major, and/or widely applicable to different user setups, and/or very annoying.

3) is the worse though, especially when it happens for no good reason, or for novelty value.

4) is not that bad

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by coldtea »

rubatuga wrote: post #543
mickle00 wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://imgur.com/a/jLPM9oV this is what I'm seeing with Safari, WhatsApp and Chrome all maximized but with various radius on each corner.

Holy crap is this real??

Brome Chrome and/or WhatsApp using their own window borders, and their stuck to the previous macOS look. They'll update them, but I wish they used the native chrome (no pun intended)

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by coldtea »

leptons wrote: post #484
mickle00 wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://imgur.com/a/jLPM9oV this is what I'm seeing with Safari, WhatsApp and Chrome all maximized but with various radius on each corner.

If this were April 1st, it might make sense. But this is a major OS release by a brand that's famous for its design aesthetic. What the actual fuck Apple? Does nobody test anything anymore? How did this get out of the lab? Who exactly is steering this ship? Tim Cook's days at the helm might be winding down.

Probably not Apple's fault for that one, but Chrome and/or WhatsApp drawing their own window borders (with radius to match the previous macOS release)

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by RayVR »

ubercore wrote: post #734
ransom1538 wrote: post #711

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing on this list compares to removing an ESC key. That was apple starting to leave reality. I had to buy used laptops for that time period.

You're right about the hubris, but Caps Lock -> Esc is The Way regardless!

I am a vim user. I map caps lock to super for a dead simple app shortcut system. I prefer being able to switch applications perfectly over a more convenient escape key. macOS app switching is broken by default.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by TuringNYC »

kaladin-jasnah wrote: post #716
kminehart wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however. It doesn't exist at the moment. :\ I would pay 2x the price of a macbook for a linux laptop with the same hardware quality. The battery life and power/efficiency of my m4 pro is insane. It's so good that it's really hard to justify using anything else right now.

I'm hoping maybe the Qualcomm laptops make some progress on battery life. I had an LG gram that had honestly surprisingly good battery life on Linux, and maybe the ThinkPads are good too.

Well the Qualcomm SnapDragon chips literally compete on operations-per-watt. But it depends on what you need -- raw horsepower with a mostly tethered laptop or on-the-go freedom.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by b3ing »

userbinator wrote: post #482
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate That seems to be a growing trend ever since "UX designers" started taking over (early 2010s?), to the point that I wonder if they're trying to see how far they can take it.

Who cares? if the senior designer is hot and young with 1 yr of experience that’s all that matters
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