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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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How is the `system` prompt "injected"? Afaik o1 onwards no longer have a SYSTEM role. Is it just a normal part of the prompt?

It's called 'developer message' now https://x.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1885407759887155301

I'm guessing it's less powerful than a system prompt? And there is still a system prompt, but only OpenAI can use it...

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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I wanted to listen to a podcast where a profesor explains a new drug for ADHD. Instead of spending 2h of my time I spent 5 min reading a summary generated by gpt from a youtube transcript.

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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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why should anyone use this when deepseek is free/cheaper? openai is no longer relevant.

I don't think OpenAI is training on your data. At least they say they don't, and I believe that. I wouldn't be surprised if the NSA or something has access to data if they request it or something though. But DeepSeek clearly states in their terms of service that they can train on your API data or use it for other purposes. Which one might assume their government can access as well. We need direct eval comparisons bet…

I don't trust a company that goes against its founding principles.

OpenAI is not publishing open source models. They should rename as ClosedAI.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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sama and OpenAI’s CPO Kevin Weil both suggested this is coming soon, as a direct response to DeepSeek, in an AMA a few hours ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/s/EElFfcU8ZO

Do you have a direct link to that? My "force .old on everything" plugin is having problems resolving your url (sorry!).

https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ieonxv/comment/ma9...

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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For my advanced use case involving Python and knowledge of finance, Sonnet fared poorly. Contrary to what I am reading here, my favorite approach has been to use o1 in agent mode. It’s an absolute delight to work with. It is like I’m working with a capable peer, someone at my level. Sadly there are some hard limits on o1 with Cursor and I cannot use it anymore. I do pay for their $20/month subscription.

> o1 in agent mode How? It specifically tells me this is unsupported: "Agent composer is currently only supported using Anthropic models or GPT-4o, please reselect the model and try again."

I think you’re right - I must have used it in regular mode, then got GPT-4o to fill in the gaps. It can fully automate a lot of menial work, such as refactors and writing tests. Though I’ll add, I had a roughly 50% success with GPT-4o bug fixing in agent mode, which is pretty great in my experience. When it did work, it felt glorious - 100% hands-free operation!

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If the comments say it's worth it I read it, but often (especially on HN) the top comment starts with a summary of errors/inconsistencies in the article and then I don't really feel the need.

You do you, but hivemind thinking is a real thing. I have seen highly upvoted comments seemingly "debunk" an article where on closer examination it becomes clear they actually didn't read the article either. It quickly becomes this weird bubble of people just acting on what everything "thinks" the content is about without ever having looked at the content. I get that is easier, but intellectually you are doing yourse…

That is the biggest problem on this website, people want to feel smart by 'debunking' things they don't really understand. It leads to a lot of contrarian views with poor signal to noise ratio, especially when the topic is slightly outside of average user experience (midwit programming)

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What if this is better? If the summary includes all of the key details and people save time AND read both the article and comments wouldn't that be better?

If that was the case, then yes. It's not though, because the AI misses parts (doesn't "include all of the key details") and also fabricates and misrepresents other details

It’s sometimes not now, but likely will be the case quite soon.

I invite everyone to have an open mind about this, as it seems that the part of my comment that said “what if” wasn’t fully absorbed.

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Currently on the internet people skip the article and go straight to the comments. Soon people will skip the comments and go striaght to an AI summary reading neither the original article nor the comments.

I wanted to listen to a podcast where a profesor explains a new drug for ADHD. Instead of spending 2h of my time I spent 5 min reading a summary generated by gpt from a youtube transcript.

Which drug? Who's the professor? Can you share the summary please?
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