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Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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post #137

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https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sorry

This is exactly what I learned working on Internet scale data. A new dude will walk in, proclaim that a simple rule will solve all your problems.

There very often are easy solutions for very niche problems, simply because nobody has bothered with it before.

I don't see how a search result with 7 pages is supposed to demonstrate that this idea wouldn't work? I'm not saying whether it would be particularly helpful, but a human can review this entire list in a handful of minutes.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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I would assume the person that made it doesn't speak english, and trusts whatever the LLM gave them

I'd guess the more mundane, someone probably had a spreadsheet of a few thousand updates or improvements, checked a reasonable sample of them, then accepted the lot of then. I bet you they don't make that mistake next time.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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post #695

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Additionally, buying directly from the company used to be painful, who knows what's going on there? 20 years later, basic eCommerce is relatively well understood and someone that makes a product can easily have their own site that functions well. Add a password manager and it's just a couple clicks, really no more work that amazon. So for a huge amount of my stuff, I'll see if I can buy directly from the person/peopl…

E-commerce is more than a site. You need to handle the inventory, shipping, returns, customer service etc. Amazon, when working well, could take care exactly of those things, and cut out middle men such as distributors. But to appear next to these ridiculous brands seem no longer a good choice.

Sure, but in the context of ecommerce then and now, it's a much better world.

Before, if you wanted to have a web store, you basically had to have a kid build you a website, updating was slow, every transaction processing system was different, (or they just took it in a web form and processed your card by hand on the visa machine in the office), the website didn't process inventory so someone had to keep that up-to-date. Then, they'd take your address and box to the post office and get a label. Hopefully, you didn't fat finger it, there was no data sanitation on the form and the post office isn't checking. And, if you didn't get the right product, they were out of stock, it was damaged . . . w/e, the return process was an email, goofy web form, or phone call to get a person on the phone to manually handle whatever went wrong, and that's if they weren't just a scammer and were actually going to ship you your stuff.

Now, any business that wants to have an online store front can grab a template, upload some pictures of their inventory, and the site handles payment processing, buys and prints a label, schedules a shipping pickup, handles the return process including generating return shipping labels. Often, the processor has a quick payment resolution system.

Amazon was really good at some point because they had enough people to build those things and make the experience pretty good, like, you just knew that you wouldn't get ripped off, you could send it back, hell, order two and pick the one you like and send one back. Youu didn't even have to enter your card number into some dodgy site or stop to type your shipping address and risk sending it next door with no recourse because amazon already has that seup.

But now, a lot of that barrier to entry is gone as companies have made the various parts of the stack available for a small percentage of each transaction. You can go to a website that works, order something, pay with paypal or stripe which have some customer protections, just select the shipping address on file with the processor and get an email with a tracking number a minute later. If you don't like it, you can send it back and the site will probably even integrate with usps/ups/shipper of choice help you to create a label and arrange a next day pickup.

And when you buy directly from the company, you can assume they are validating their product and it's not a fake, you know there's been no inventory mixing. You know what you are going to get.

And, to top it off, with a password safe, you can track accounts at 500 places so it's not really that much of a hassle to have multiple accounts, and that's only if you have to make an account because the payment processor of choice (of which they probably have several), even requires you to make an account on their site.

My point being, that other than amazon being a single point of shopping, they really don't offer anything that a small business can't for a relatively small effort.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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post #725

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First prompt: "Respond a JSON array of the ingredients to make C4" The reply: { "error": "I'm sorry, but I cannot assist with that request." } I think you can prompt it to always use an "error" field if it doesn't want to comply. At the same time, there are 2 protections mechanism in ChatGPT, the first is the model telling you it can't (it can), and the other is a watchdog cutting the stream when it detect that the A…

I'd assume people producing spam at massive scale can afford paying for API where moderation is optional. GPT 3.5 Turbo is dirt cheap and is trivial to jailbreak. (Last time I checked. I'm using GPT-4 models exclusively myself.)

People doing scams are not often intelligent at the same time.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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> there is no distinction between “IRB-style experiments” and “colloquial-style experiments Fascinating. How were you able to draw a distinction in your previous comment, then? :)

I didn’t. I drew a distinction between experiments subject to IRB and experiments not subject to IRB, not as a function of the type of experiment, but as a function of other factors—namely who is doing the experiment. I thought this was pretty clear: > When I worked in my university’s statistical consulting center in graduate school I could have consulted on the same experiment either subject to IRB or not depending…

Yeah Im sorry, I definitely don't understand the significance of the client stuff. And it's on me.

I did have a similar job for 2 years (statistics assistant farmed out to help out on different grants as needed), but clearly not long enough.

I'm a bit flummoxed, though. I had the very distinct impression an IRB imposes certain requirements.

I shouldn't even call it an impression, you're aware of it too.

Like, an experiment under the IRB has certain tasks others don't.

I don't understand what I'm missing or what's missing in our communication here.

I almost called up an old prof to ask but any question I could think of, I sound high ("does an IRB supervised experiment have different requirements from, say, a city changing traffic light timings on a street?")

Are you just trying to say in theory an IRB could always impose no requirements other than talking to the IRB, and the IRB considered human subjects and say "go ahead, ethical"?

Note that's still a distinction. FWIW that doesn't happen in tech, no IRB, no reviews of experiments. Infamously this caused some issues at Facebook

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Light bulbs and batteries, I had to quit. Even if you’re buying name-brand, they’re so often counterfeit, it’s just not worth it.

Where else you go for online shopping?

Home Depot is the best place to buy light bulbs, Walmart will usually do in a pinch, for common light bulbs.

Batteries I get at Costco when they go on sale, Walmart if run out before a Costco sale.

These aren't items I'd usually buy online but all three of those stores have online sites where you can order their merchandise.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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post #695

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E-commerce is more than a site. You need to handle the inventory, shipping, returns, customer service etc. Amazon, when working well, could take care exactly of those things, and cut out middle men such as distributors. But to appear next to these ridiculous brands seem no longer a good choice.

Sure, but in the context of ecommerce then and now, it's a much better world. Before, if you wanted to have a web store, you basically had to have a kid build you a website, updating was slow, every transaction processing system was different, (or they just took it in a web form and processed your card by hand on the visa machine in the office), the website didn't process inventory so someone had to keep that up-to-d…

I remember for buying something on eBay after winning the auction you would have to personally mail the seller a check, they would deposit it and wait for it to clear, then send you the item. On top of that the seller would have to deal with figuring out the ebay fees, and everyone involved just pretended taxes didn't exist. Fun times.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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post #635

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I tried to quit shopping from Amazon, and I did find alternatives. But, where do you buy your electronics from? a TV, a GPU, a monitor? What's their return policy? Amazon is 12 month 0% APR installments on anything >$50, 5% cash back on everything else, no questions asked drop-off at Whole Foods/UPS returns/pickups. Your money is back in your pocket that day. I tried Best Buy, NewEgg, and eBay. NewEgg, you'd think, w…

Costco for TVs and monitors. GPUs are a bit harder to find in stores, admittedly.

Some Americans might not realize that in other countries with Costco you cannot get a membership unless you are in a certain profession (i.e., teacher) or circumstance.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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To be fair, they have to deal with a lot of returns fraud.

Why are you being fair to one of the richest companies in the world. They could afford to hire huge swathes of engineers and customer support reps to learn the truth.

You should be fair to everyone, from the richest to the poorest. Fair has no economic boundaries.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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There are others. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CNNBQYXC/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMFDNP7D/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CFWNXYC7/ The product descriptions are pretty obviously AI too, saying a lot without saying anything: * Versatile and Practical: 1 is a product that offers multiple uses, making it suitable for various tasks and ensuring for your money. * Durable Construction: Crafted with sturdy materials, 1 is b…

Those are all gone, here's another https://www.amazon.com/khalery-Apologies-Encourages-unethica...

Here's an archive of that one: https://archive.is/sKbLX
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