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Post by mech422 »

Reason077 wrote: post #245
moolcool wrote: post #132

Using Amazon for shopping is terrible, borderline unusable in 2024. They're hard to compete with because they're giant and have an amazing logistics network, but it also seems like there's a big vacuum in the market for an "everything store" that's actually good.

The worst thing for me is how the Amazon search algorithm seems to want to show you everything but the item you searched for. In many categories, even when explicitly searching for brand and model names, you’ll get dozens of off-brand substitutions and even random unrelated products appearing above it in the search results. Occasionally I’ve even noticed products that are available for sale (if you click on a direct…

Heh - until you buy it... then it shows you a 'suggested' purchase to buy it again on every page :-P

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Post by Spivak »

twobitshifter wrote: post #512
AlecSchueler wrote: post #35

Easy fix since ChatGPT always apologises for not complying: any description or title containing the word "sorry" gets flagged for human oversight. Still orders of magnitude faster than writing all your own spam texts.

Just have a second AI validate the first and tell it that its job is spotting fake products.

You joke but this is unreasonably effective. We're prototyping using LLms to extract, among other things, names from arbitrary documents.

Asking the LLm to read the text and output all the names it found -> it gets the names but there's lots of false positives.

Asking the LLM to then classify the list of candidate names it found as either name / not name -> damn near perfect.

Playing around with it it seems that the more text it has to read the worse it performs at following instructions so having low accuracy pass on a lot of text followed by a high-accuracy pass on a much smaller set of data is the way to go.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by sytelus »

sgarland wrote: post #616
andrenotgiant wrote: post #611

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything on Amazon is shady knock-off garbage. I made the mistake of buying bandaids from there, they looked like a brand name but slightly off, they gave my kids rashes. I made the mistake of buying LED light bulbs from there, the brand name was reputable but who knows if what I actually got was the same brand or a copy, they started flickering and randomly going out within a year. I made the mistake of buying an…

Light bulbs and batteries, I had to quit. Even if you’re buying name-brand, they’re so often counterfeit, it’s just not worth it.

Where else you go for online shopping?

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by hackerlight »

ryanisnan wrote: post #607
hackerlight wrote: post #604

These are all over twitter. Someone, either a government or private group is using chatgpt to create inauthentic accounts.

Huh? Why lean towards conspiracy? Trash sellers looking do dump volume onto Amazon are leveraging tools to generate volume.

> Trash sellers looking do dump volume onto Amazon are leveraging tools to generate volume.

I'm not talking about Amazon, I'm talking about X. There are many inauthentic accounts with content generated by LLMs currently on X. For example:

https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/193jr8s/tha...

Most likely these fake accounts are created by firms who are selling access to mass-likes/follows. They sell the ability to get 10k fake accounts to follow your legitimate account, if you wish to boost your legitimate account, for some reason. Or, these fake accounts are created by intelligence agencies in order to run influence operations. Both of these possibilities have been reported on in the mainstream press. Maybe there's a third explanation that I haven't considered.

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Post by papichulo4 »

ljm wrote: post #599

I love how Amazon has gone from customer obsession to the lowest of the lowest common denominator. Easiest boycott of my life to stop buying tripe from them. They’ve successfully pivoted from customer obsession to obsessed customers.

I tried to quit shopping from Amazon, and I did find alternatives. But, where do you buy your electronics from? a TV, a GPU, a monitor? What's their return policy?

Amazon is 12 month 0% APR installments on anything >$50, 5% cash back on everything else, no questions asked drop-off at Whole Foods/UPS returns/pickups. Your money is back in your pocket that day.

I tried Best Buy, NewEgg, and eBay. NewEgg, you'd think, would be better. But their return policy is non-existent compared to the convenience Amazon provides.

I think how I feel Amazon.com has degraded is that they've made it so smooth to shop that I end up buying things I don't need. It feels like the site has spliced itself into my "oh yeah I can solve that" internal loop and makes me spend $30 on some crappy (cheap) solution and before I know it it's on my doorstep.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by steelframe »

michaelbuck wrote: post #614

Nine hours after this was posted the link is 404'ing and about 90% of the links in the comments are also showing a 404. Is some Amazon employee spending their friday afternoon manually removing product listings?

It's Amazon's signature style to make the bad press go away without addressing the underlying issue that generated the bad press to begin with. Their culture is to hand everyone a pager and pull them in to fix the "problem" through just-in-time heroics rather than spend the money to build a system that's resilient to suckage in the first place. And "fixing" means tediously swatting down specific instances that are made public.

1. Allow 20,000 bads to happen through systemic enshittification

2. Get called out on 20 of the bads

3. Hurry up and have some poor sap manually "fix" the bads being highlighted in the public forum

4. "We've fixed every bad we've been informed of!"

5. ???

6. Profit

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Post by sytelus »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #35

Easy fix since ChatGPT always apologises for not complying: any description or title containing the word "sorry" gets flagged for human oversight. Still orders of magnitude faster than writing all your own spam texts.

Why Amazon is not able to actually verify sellers real identities and terminate their accounts? I would imagine that they should be able to force them to supply verifiable national identification/bank account etc. How do these sellers get away with these?

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Post by CrazyStat »

refulgentis wrote: post #588
CrazyStat wrote: post #584

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, there’s not. Any of the examples I gave could be conducted by university researchers subject to the IRB, or by corporate/government researchers not subject to an IRB and informed consent requirements. When I worked in my university’s statistical consulting center in graduate school I could have consulted on the same experiment either subject to IRB or not depending on who the client was.

Thank you for the shift in tone: I'm honestly unsure what you mean, steelmanning: you worked as a consultant at a university and not all work you did involving experiments was for IRB experiments --- I guess what I'd say is, the fact you're able to make that distinction does seem to confirm my initial observation that the grandparent of my original post in this thread was drawing on IRB-style experiments to condemn e…

No, there is no distinction between “IRB-style experiments” and “colloquial-style experiments.” Exactly the same experiment could be subject to IRB or not depending on who was running it. The distinction you’re trying to make does not exist.

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Post by notatoad »

ljm wrote: post #599

I love how Amazon has gone from customer obsession to the lowest of the lowest common denominator. Easiest boycott of my life to stop buying tripe from them. They’ve successfully pivoted from customer obsession to obsessed customers.

customer obsession, but the customer they're obsessed with is the scammy marketplace seller, because that's who they really make money off of.
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