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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#731
I know that this is very unlikely to happen, but I wish Ubuntu had rolling releases. For me it would be okay to have a new version every 10 years (for heavy migrations like UEFI, 64 Bit, systemd). I had Ubuntu on most PCs at home, but switched most of them to Arch, as I was sick of the 6-mothly horror upgrades.

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

- HEADLINE: Rolling Releases

- DESCRIPTION: make a distribution which does not require any 'apt-get dist-upgrade' as 'apt-get upgrade' always brings it to the latest stable software version (like Arch and Gentoo)

- AFFILIATION: just a long time linux user

@dustinkirkland great idea to ask HN :-)

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#732

Earlier quoted context omitted.

User: I want hi-res apps! Dev: Sure, here you go. User: But why is it so small on my new shiny tablet high density screen? Dev: (SHit it worked okay for me) Okay now it detects the density and scale.. User: But when I move the window to my old good lcd screen it becomes way too big! Dev: Okay let's see if I can dynamically adapt to a new monitor density, it's just one scale factor. User: But when I put it on my big t…

MacOS actually in my experience seems to handle this all perfectly. Normal-DPI screens you chose resolution and dragging windows between monitors works as you naturally expect (it pops between DPIs).

It's a bit weird to drag things onto my 4k TV through HDMI and try to track my microscopic mouse pointer to the tiny window to maximize my video, but otherwise works well. I suspect I could fix that in settings somehow though.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#734
Ubuntu desktop Webapps Gmail, twitter, youtube webapps is one of the features I use most despite being virtually abandoned. Since webapps transitioned to unity browser they are even cooler. Please keep suppprting them for the desktop and integrate them with unity (quicklists, sound indicator...) Thanks

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#735
post #492

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…

Another related issue: I have helped get a few co-workers set up with Ubuntu on their laptops. Inevitably, once every few months, one comes to me and says "I just ran an update and the 'Restart' popup came up, so I restarted, now my laptop says 'No bootable devices found.'" This happens when Ubuntu is installed in UEFI mode. A kernel update sometimes wipes out the boot image. To fix it, I to get into the BIOS and res…

I have similar experience, but with Virtualbox in UEFI mode. After any restart, UEFI will complain that it cannot find anything bootable, I will run the bootloader from UEFI shell (Virtualbox does not have BIOS menus), in booted system run the efibootmgr to register it, just to have it lost at next reboot and doing the dance again.

Only Ubuntu does that, other linux distributions don't have this problem.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#736
-FLAVOR: Ubuntu desktop -HEADLINE: Webapps -DESCRIPTION: Gmail, twitter, youtube webapps is one of the features I use most despite being virtually abandoned. Since webapps transitioned to unity browser they are even cooler. Please keep suppprting them for the desktop and integrate them with unity (quicklists, sound indicator...) Thanks

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#737
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No one has been ragging on Unity.... They should be. Unity is still garbage. Ruined Ubuntu for me after about 10 years of usage... Still never returning because Unity is such a resource hog, so non-standard in its interface, and the fact that teaching someone Unity is a useless skill. We used Ubuntu for years to teach people how to use a computer for the first time: we gave them old PC's with Ubuntu installed. Unity…

The only actionable complaint in your whole rant is that it is a resource hog. For reference on my system all the processes with "unity" in the name take about 210 of RAM (with a dozen windows open), a negligible amount for a modern computer or phone even. It took me about 3 seconds to figure out click the menu button and type what I want. That really is the largest user facing feature, and its a common one with othe…

In my experience it is true that Unity struggles on older computers, or perhaps where the graphics driver situation isn't great. I've had a lot of installations where the dock takes 5-10 seconds to load. Agree with you about ease of use though, people seem to pick it up quite quickly. For the basic functionality of opening and switching applications, people seem to pick it up almost immediately. Not quite the same for using the dock, but even so.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#738
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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Better Mouse Settings - DESCRIPTION: Right now mouse acceleration is enabled by default, and for heavy mouse users this is really not usable. There is no way to change this behaviour in the mouse settings. The only way as a user to get a workable mouse configuration is with custom startup scripts, and it took me as an experienced Linux user and software engineer a long time to fig…

+1 was about to post the same thing

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#739
FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

HEADLINE: Stability / UI Bug fixing / Apport UI

DESCRIPTION: Sorry, long rant :)

Have been admin at Uni for 30 Ubuntu workstations. All 16.04 so I don't know about 16.10 or 17.10 improvements but what's missing in Unity is polish.

- The "Ubuntu has experienced a problem" dialogue needs rework and needs to move to the tray or be queued - there should also at least be the name of the application on the modal. I've seen situations where there are more than 50 of these modals layered on top.

- There are already bugs in launchpads for Unity, please consider them and work on making the experience more smooth. Especially focus on making Window management sane with other Apps that are not always Qt/GTK, like emacs, xterms and stuff. There bugs in the menu bar, window position is often broken - lot's of small stuff like that. The launcher tends to misbehave. Would really love if Ubuntu just did a sabattical year of fixing all the bugs in the Unity UI and thinking about good design.

- Menu bar is subtle broken for a lot of apps.

- Nautilus and gvfs should take a long look at some things dolphin and KDE are doing right and adopt some ideas.

- Also stability, stability, stability. Nautilus eating 10gb of memory due to a large folder, or handling of large files is all kind of broken. This is stuff that happens daily for a lot of users and investing some time to implement sane behavoir should not be so hard. Basically I wish that the Ubuntu Desktop team torture their UI and take notes how it breaks. Opening a 10Gbyte .tar.gz, having 10.000 files in a folder, over nfs, over sshfs. Stuff like this. Needs to work without hassle and provide feedback, not hangs.

- The small stuff matters, polish. Often when something does not work no UI feedback is provided. Torture your desktop, do stupid things and see how it breaks in strange ways. Fix that!

ROLE/AFFILIATION: Computer science student, Linux user, Admin for Ubuntu Desktops

Other than that: Good job, I like Ubuntu and Unity. But beeing stable and rock solid would make it not only okay, it would make it great.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#740
FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server HEADLINE: Continue supporting systemd alternatives DESCRIPTION: Systemd is problematic in a number of ways for a number of environments. Please at least continue to support Upstart; I'll admit it isn't my favorite init, but is far less trouble in some contexts. ROLE: Devops Engineer, not speaking for my day job
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