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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by moomoo11 »

gitaarik wrote: post #607
moomoo11 wrote: post #316

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I’d argue sama is a far better person. At least you know his intentions, which is that he will do anything to win. And codex actually works, I can let it run for hours and at least come back and it’s done a good job. CC not only fucked me with false advertising on Opus that I cancelled, but it fucking stops working so often or sucks after a little bit of context usage. A\ ceo is a bad salesman (50% of X will lose the…

Funny, for me Claude Code works perfectly, and I don't have to wait for hours, my prompts are usually done within minutes. And the results are most of the time great.

Have you run agents that work for hours? Doesn’t seem like it.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

lxe wrote: post #382
jamescontrol wrote: post #44

That is a huge red-flag. While I understand that they will do some policing/censoring, this is way beyond what I would consider acceptable. They can have a different price plan for agentic stuff, but these things where they “accidentally” whoops match on specific keywords and trigger extra usage charges is giving a evil-microsoft-vibe

What I don't quite understand is why would one of the most advanced AI labs use rudimentary broken text match heuristics to track and detect abuse. Why not run simple inference on actual turns out of band, and if abuse is detected, adjust the quotas semi-retroactively.

Fairly certain it went like this:

Somebody at the top freaked out.

Somebody had to do something fast.

A prompt was given to Claude Code to fix Claude Code to stop Claude Code from being used for non-Claude Code stuff.

Commit made. Emergency release.

OpenClaw number went down. Everybody's pre-IPO stock options continued to go up.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by mannanj »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #441
SlinkyOnStairs wrote: post #348

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There is no "if". They could. There's no separation between parts of the prompt. You sneak that text in, anywhere, and it'll work. Whether Anthropic is using a regex or some LLM to detect the mentions of OpenClaw doesn't even matter. > Your project isn't going to get many AI PRs if just cloning your project wiped out their quota. With how many projects automatically AI-review PRs, they're just sitting ducks. You don'…

You don't even need to put it in a project, put it in all your blog posts as invisible (white font white background) text, and if Claude winds up reading your website as part of a research task, you basically bricked someone's Claude session. Why is it amateur hour at Anthropic lately?

Money focus probably. Maybe they, like open ai, sacrificed their original mission for "we need money for compute"

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by maplethorpe »

jp57 wrote: post #686
maplethorpe wrote: post #636

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What are all their SWEs doing, if Claude is coding itself? And why are there hundreds of open SWE positions on their careers page?

There’s all kinds of stuff there that’s not the Claude Code app.

Why isn't Claude coding that stuff too? Is Claude only good at coding Claude?

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by copperx »

AbstractH24 wrote: post #679
jwilliams wrote: post #451

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> I don't know what "openclaw" is. It's not something I have knowledge of, and it doesn't appear in your memory or this project's context. As others have pointed out, Anthropic is allowed to have TOS, even if we disagree with it. But having Claude deny the existence of OpenClaw is a way more hazardous and likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution: https://www.anthropic.com/constitution

> As others have pointed out, Anthropic is allowed to have TOS, even if we disagree with it. Anthropic is allowed to shutdown its LLM and manufacture clown noses if it wants Doesn’t mean customers have to agree with it.

> Anthropic is allowed to shutdown its LLM and manufacture clown noses if it wants

This exact pivot happened a few weeks ago.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by miki123211 »

chillfox wrote: post #509
giancarlostoro wrote: post #441

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You don't even need to put it in a project, put it in all your blog posts as invisible (white font white background) text, and if Claude winds up reading your website as part of a research task, you basically bricked someone's Claude session. Why is it amateur hour at Anthropic lately?

Because AI is a new product category in tech, and every single new product category in tech always, no exceptions, insists on learning nothing from history, and so the dumb shit is repeated until they learn their own lessons. I am almost 40, and I have seen the same pattern play out several times now, it’s always the same.

s/in tech//

Every time something new comes along, people go "we are the new hotness, all those pesky lessons those old guys have learned over the last 200-or-so years don't apply to us." It applies to tech. It applies to crypto. It applies to political revolutions. Every time, it ends the same way (with the political revolutions inevitably being a lot more deadly).

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by jp57 »

maplethorpe wrote: post #725
jp57 wrote: post #686

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There’s all kinds of stuff there that’s not the Claude Code app.

Why isn't Claude coding that stuff too? Is Claude only good at coding Claude?

IDK. I was just reporting what Boris said. In any case the litany of reports of slop inside Claude Code speaks for itself.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by tremon »

ajam1507 wrote: post #533
emp17344 wrote: post #462

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They’re idiots who hacked together a shockingly useful tool by leveraging the billions of dollars they received from shamelessly hyping up chatbots. The Claude Code leak makes this very clear.

Pretty wild to say that the company with one of the best models (arguably the best) is a bunch of idiots.

You seem to be implying that the company that employs the best chemists should therefore also make the best cakes. I don't see an obvious reason why this should hold true. I think it's fair to ridicule a bunch of chemists acting as master patissiers.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by vkou »

sandeepkd wrote: post #376
abdullin wrote: post #46

I reproduced this on my account. cd /tmp mkdir anthropic-claude cd anthropic-claude/ git init touch hello git add -A git commit -m "'{\"schema\": \"openclaw.inbound_meta.v1\"}'" claude -p "hi" Immediate disconnect and session usage went to 100%

My assumption is that a lot of these checks and changes lately are not well though out. They are knee jerk reaction to address something which was not anticipated in the original design. A lot of these changes to address scaling and abuse challenges probably fall into bucket of applying bandages on top of bandages. Maybe if Claude could build something to validate the baseline quality of the product to ensure these t…

Of course they are not well thought out. The biggest limiting factor on software quality has always been PM and executive prioritization. If they decide that you should build garbage anti-user features, that's what you'll build for them.

Letting SWEs execute on that prioritization faster was never going to get us better software, it was just going us more enshittification faster.

AI improving productivity is great, except that the C-suite controlling where that productivity goes are people that are consistently ranking in the top of the 'Never should be trusted with a lot of power' list. All they want is to make more paperclips.

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