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Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by squibonpig »

n8cpdx wrote: post #496
drnick1 wrote: post #462

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If you don't want your payments to be tracked you need to use cash or crypto. Otherwise, just use a credit card. I really don't see how unlocking a phone is easier or more convenient than using a credit card.

The watch is on my wrist, or the phone is already in my hand. The credit card is buried in a wallet that needs to be taken out of and put back into a pocket. Also “unlocking” isn’t an inconvenient step, on iPhone it just happens automatically. As it should on android if the fingerprint sensor is in a convenient location.

Im on graphene right now and this was an issue, but a ten dollar sticky card wallet on the back of the phone made it identical.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by krs_ »

diacritical wrote: post #641
godelski wrote: post #624

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> WSL2 basically works minus some annoying behavior and caveats. It is a lot of annoying things. Everything is just so clunky and I don't think it is surprising given that it is a subsystem. At least in the mac I can still access the computer I'm typing on through the terminal. I mean yeah, I can do that with Winblows but it is non-native and clunky. I mean ever try to open a folder with a few hundred images in it? (…

What setup do you use for seeing image previews (or the images themselves?) on a terminal in Linux?

Not the original poster but possibly lsix[1], which looking at the readme should work in certain terminals on Windows as well but I haven't tried it.

[1] https://github.com/hackerb9/lsix

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by samantha-wiki »

BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

I agree strongly with this. I would ditch my iPhone in a heartbeat for an open source alternative.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by slicktux »

poulpy123 wrote: post #718
BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

I don't think open source can get a big market share but it can give you a nice niche market of tech enthusiasts if they play their hand well. For that they need to not let the development of the OS to just the graphene os team, and to have competitive hardware, software and prices.

By Motorola partnering with Graphene it will allow them to get a bigger market share and also help create a niche market for open source… It’s a win win

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by jraph »

al_borland wrote: post #717
jraph wrote: post #686

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That's not what I observe. Many non technical people have ethical concerns. This fantasy among the technical crowd here that the general public only cares about cheap and convenient, which is at best condescending, needs to die. Convincing oneself of this only takes meeting non technical people.

Every non-technical person I’ve talked to doesn’t seem to care. In many cases I think it’s because they don’t really understand or the threat is too abstract. For example, collecting information to display ads and manipulate an algorithm to influence how a person thinks, feels, and consumes, for fun and profit. Since they can’t see it, think they’re above it, and see stuff that makes them laugh, they just keep going.…

I suppose it depends on the area then. Or maybe I'm in my own bubble.

Most people I know aren't particularly technical, and many of them are at least concerned or aware of these topics, even if they haven't taken any concrete actions (yet).

Keep trying to gently spread the word then, that's a good thing to do (without being annoying!). It takes time, but it eventually pays.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by rprend »

rapsey wrote: post #313
BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

> Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Of the enthusiast market. The absolutely worst customers to be dependent on.

Yep. Enthusiasts are cheap, picky, and have no loyalty. They’re extremely political and are the only type of customer who will actually switch. Plus it’s a tiny market. You might eek out $50mil revenue after a decade, if you’re lucky.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by yiiii »

samantha-wiki wrote: post #723
BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

I agree strongly with this. I would ditch my iPhone in a heartbeat for an open source alternative.

GrapheneOS is already existing and pretty usable!

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by roysting »

DerekL wrote: post #69
roysting wrote: post #41

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> Motorola makes great hardware too Do they? I genuinely don’t know because I don’t think I have ever seen a Motorola smartphone in the wild and their heavy involvement with the police and surveillance state has my attention piqued a bit. I’m just saying GrapheneOS partnering with possibly the biggest police state surveillance solutions provider? What’s that all about?

Are you confusing Motorola Mobility with Motorola Solutions? The article is about Motorola Mobility, which makes cell phones. Motorola Solutions makes two-way radios and surveillance systems. They split in 2011.

Yes, thank you. I was not aware of that. The impression I had was that they were divisions or business units of the same corporate entity. That being said though, even though some are concerned about the Chinese connection of Motorola Mobility, I would have far more concern about Motorola Solutions being the partner considering that "the Chinese surveillance state" is far more remote than the tyrannical impulses of our domestic governments sitting on our necks.
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