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U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by dragonwriter »

zamadatix wrote: post #714
slg wrote: post #701

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That is because the complaints about left wing threats to free speech are always incredibly dubious like the government asking social media sites to take down what was widely considered dangerous Covid misinformation or some random college professor saying people should use "Latinx". In comparison, the right wing attacks on free speech are like the FCC threatening people for mild jokes. Can you name anything the left…

The Biden administration started this whole TikTok thing in the first place, you just liked the platform at the time and are now getting bit in the ass when the group in power has changed. I'm not interested in which side is supposed to be worse than the other so someone can feel better about the speech they are okay with suppressing, I'm interested in free speech all the time. The Kimmel thing is indeed a stupid and…

> The Biden administration started this whole TikTok thing in the first place

No, it didn't.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/ex...

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by otterley »

vFunct wrote: post #693
otterley wrote: post #490

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Are you calling me a genocidal Zionist? Yes or no, and on what, precisely, is your conclusion based? And what other posts and comments are you referring to in your complaint?

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Boy, that is a long logical leap. Not only is it insulting and wrong, but it's also defamatory and could get you in serious legal trouble.

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Post by wyre »

bitmasher9 wrote: post #531
ivape wrote: post #525

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This shit is crazy that it’s really happening. The double whammy is that the youth is not prepared intellectually and will continue contributing their data to this platform.

Some will. There’s a good chance any modification to the algorithm will make it less sticky and the youth will migrate to another app. It’s part of a larger trend of the buying platforms for obvious propaganda. It seems to be a successful strategy.

Youth will be on whichever app the creators are on. As long as they can hold the status quo keeping creators on the app the people that will leave will be few.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by slg »

zamadatix wrote: post #714
slg wrote: post #701

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is because the complaints about left wing threats to free speech are always incredibly dubious like the government asking social media sites to take down what was widely considered dangerous Covid misinformation or some random college professor saying people should use "Latinx". In comparison, the right wing attacks on free speech are like the FCC threatening people for mild jokes. Can you name anything the left…

The Biden administration started this whole TikTok thing in the first place, you just liked the platform at the time and are now getting bit in the ass when the group in power has changed. I'm not interested in which side is supposed to be worse than the other so someone can feel better about the speech they are okay with suppressing, I'm interested in free speech all the time. The Kimmel thing is indeed a stupid and…

Others have addressed "this whole TikTok thing" being attributed to Biden. I asked you for a left wing equivalent for Kimmel and you couldn't name one. Somehow this lack of an equivalent left wing attack is evidence of them sharing responsibility for this right wing attack on free speech. That is a perfect illustration of my point. I'm not going to "waste time in an internet debate with someone" who can't see the silliness of the argument you just made.

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Post by dang »

vFunct wrote: post #343
otterley wrote: post #122

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No, we don't ban people for holding the wrong views, or what you feel are the wrong views, on a divisive topic like this one. Rather, it's your job not to post like this. And of course it's also the job of the people you're arguing with not to post like this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by dang »

vFunct wrote: post #391
otterley wrote: post #373

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You should be emailing the staff with that request, not complaining in a thread. You should also include your evidence.

They read these threads just fine. I don't recommend emailing since that loses context. Additionally, it makes other people aware of the problem.

We don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted to HN. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. You can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

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Post by wyre »

philipallstar wrote: post #702
watwut wrote: post #691

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The thing is, self-professed "free speech absolutists" generally believe that only right with and nazi speech are the ones worthy of defense. Anybody else who is criticizing those, disagreeing with those or promoting other ideas is seen as threat to free speech. Self-professed "free speech absolutists" get really angry when left or anti right people speak or make the right uncomfortable.

No, this is just in your head. You might still have 40-year-old instincts from when the authoritarian right was in charge, both in institutions and in social norms, but it's been the authoritarian left for 20 years. Any discussion that engages in spreading stereotypes, rather than debating ideas, is just part of the problem.

You're not making sense. People on the right actively spread stereotypes, racist cliches, and other antisocial, pro-violent opinions that they call the truth and won't budge on their opinion, but as soon as a leftist calls someone with actual authoritarian viewpoints a nazi they are the problem for spreading stereotypes and not debating ideas? lmfao

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Post by rhetocj23 »

overfeed wrote: post #266
bix6 wrote: post #19

> one member designated by the US government. Why does the board of TikTok need a gov member? Is Meta going to get a gov chaperone too? And Oracle surely needs one as well. Is the gov putting out a call for board member civil servants? Like where does this person even come from?

> Is Meta going to get a gov chaperone too? I believe the technical name is "Political Commissar." Edit: Dana White, of MMA fame, now sits on Meta's board, though it is at Zuckerberg's request.

At his request lol. Strong corporate governance structure.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by rhetocj23 »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #623

So much for capitalism and the invisible hand of the free market: forced sellout, TikTok US forbidden to compete with TikTok, board member appointed by the government, infrastructure contract has to be given to a selected company ‘oracle’. That’s something you see in Russia, not America.

This has been going on for decades. Its just more obvious now, especially with an administration who are so open about it.
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