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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by unshavedyak »

jimmysong wrote: post #159
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

As one of the beta testers, let me just say that I really like this device. It's very different than a kindle, kobo or reMarkable in that the refresh rate really makes a big difference. When I show this device to people, I show them how quickly zooming in on a PDF is. It's way faster and more responsive than any e-ink screen and it's way less addicting than the typical laptop, phone or tablet. I'm attempting to make…

What's the experience like with using it as a Terminal coding app? I'm super interested in using this to SSH into a home machine and programming from this.

How viable is that?

Though even if the device works excellently for that, i'm not sure it would _feel_ good due to it not being a laptop. My wife's ipad pro for example is not nearly as comfy as my mac pro, due to the properly balanced weight of it all.

Still, super tempting to try this.. i've wanted this for so long.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by AlanYx »

londons_explore wrote: post #712
Benanov wrote: post #709

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only laptop that fits the bill is the OLPC XO. The XO-1 is 18 years old... and yes I did work outside a few times, with rdesktop

I still use my XO-1 for work I can do with a console (via SSH with vi, tmux, etc). Alas, a web browser is kinda required for modern dev work, and an 18 year old machine with 128 MB of ram doesn't cut it. rdesktop, x forwarding, vnc, etc are all too slow. I considered removing the screen and trying to transplant it to a modern machine, but it looks like many months work to rebuild the electrical interfaces and custom…

There's a small DIY community who take XO-1 displays and installs them in old ThinkPads. It may not be as challenging as it first appears.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by freedomben »

mdp2021 wrote: post #580
thot_experiment wrote: post #114

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Can I run my own software on it? I would love to buy an epaper portable of some sort, but the fact that they're all locked down is a no go. One day I'll live my dream of vim in the forest grove.

> One day I'll live my dream of vim in the forest grove That would be any Android tabled - supposedly E-Ink based - with Termux installed...

Yes, although to satisfy my dream of vim in the forest grove, that vim needs to be capable of opening and writing every (text) file on the filesystem, meaning it needs root

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by hedora »

JeremyNT wrote: post #399
parhamn wrote: post #356

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I've never owned an android, but for any android folks: how do you all think about device security/privacy when the manufacture is relatively unknown and overseas? I really wanted to get one, but didn't know the risks associated with this.

Completely untrustworthy. I have a Likebook e-ink android device and it's great, except for the fact that I can't trust the software at all. I just assume it has a root kit on it. The faster refresh isn't even what excites me about the daylight, it's the fact that it's a more trustworthy vendor (hopefully).

I tried grapheneos, and it’s great out of the box. It’s snappy, 3x manufacturer claimed battery life, and the camera sort of works (everything else did except the pixel fast charger).

However, to run third party apps (especially those that use GPS, including lyft and uber), you have to install the Google Play Services, which are sandboxed, but cut the battery life by 66% back to the manufacturer claims (so I assume at least some of the continuous surveillance crap was running / successfully phoning home).

On top of that, at any given time, 5-10% of apps would crash on startup.

They gave java stacktraces saying they got an unchecked null pointer exception when looking for random system services. The set of apps would change randomly over time, as companies only test on android, and take a while to fix such low-priority bugs.

Also, it was missing a bunch of functionality I take for granted on iPhone, and that I ended up needing (like crdt-based notes).

On the bright side, android’s non-carplay bluetooth support is miles ahead of iOS.

Tl:dr: Degoogled android would be nice, but don’t bother.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by NoGravitas »

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #565

All the best to you! Just one little thing: I think you're killing your conversions. The website is janky even on my M1 Macbook Air. Not sure the scroll hijacking stuff is really needed to get your point across either. (Check it yourself https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis?url=daylightcomputer.com )

I opened this link on a mid-range android phone, and it was completely unusable.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by freedomben »

mdp2021 wrote: post #581
jelder wrote: post #146

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Sell me a massive desktop e-ink display with USB-C input. I want to code on this.

Consider if you really want B/W for coding. (E-Ink colour displays, Kaleido3 for speed, do not come in "large" size - if you do not consider the exceptional ~60'' made for showrooms.)

yeah, I tried that once and instantly realized the magnitude of information that is conveyed via color alone by syntax highlighting. Color is mandatory for me

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by freedomben »

dt3ft wrote: post #679
boochiboo12 wrote: post #46

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yes! we're going to come out with a bootloader unlock tool as well so you can do whatever you want our goal is to be DIY friendly, so we included things i've always wanted in a tablet like: - microSD card expandable - pogo pins for custom accessories (ie cyber deck FTW) - 2 extra physical buttons you can custom map

I’ll buy one when I see this materialize.

I'm buying one now, believing in good faith that this will in fact materialize. GP, please follow through! :-D

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by londons_explore »

AlanYx wrote: post #722
londons_explore wrote: post #712

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still use my XO-1 for work I can do with a console (via SSH with vi, tmux, etc). Alas, a web browser is kinda required for modern dev work, and an 18 year old machine with 128 MB of ram doesn't cut it. rdesktop, x forwarding, vnc, etc are all too slow. I considered removing the screen and trying to transplant it to a modern machine, but it looks like many months work to rebuild the electrical interfaces and custom…

There's a small DIY community who take XO-1 displays and installs them in old ThinkPads. It may not be as challenging as it first appears.

oooh - any links?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by freedomben »

jsheard wrote: post #216
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

FYI there's a typo on the product page, "blacklight" instead of "backlight". I assume that's not a branding thing since it's referred to as a backlight elsewhere.

That could be a great feature. You can use your tablet to find cat pee and other undesirables on your carpet, or just set the mood for a party

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by unshavedyak »

jelder wrote: post #146
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Sell me a massive desktop e-ink display with USB-C input. I want to code on this.

Same, but a laptop. I can even code over SSH, but the weight ratio for laptop usage needs to be right.
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