I've been dreaming of a device like this to run Obsidian on. I made an e-ink theme for Obsidian[1] but the refresh rate and ghosting of e-ink makes it less appealing to work with. I am curious to see if this device will solve some of those issues.
Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
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#42It’s funny that Tech is the source of and solution to all of our problems. But my real critique is that all portable devices these days are around $1000 dollars. I’m sure this display makes the device expensive, why can’t we just have a more humane workflow in our current devices instead of buying a new device?
For some, e-ink displays are the holy grail of tech. I have several e-ink devices but the real hangup is the refresh rate. If this solves that problem in a meaningful way it could be game changing.
Some are comparing their display tech to Pebble, which was so threatening to the growing smartwatch market that Fitbit purchased the company and (for reasons I don't know) took all their IP and shelved it. I wonder if Daylight will be able to keep their mission when Amazon comes knocking
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#43Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Any plans to sell just the display?
It's interesting that Anjan compared the display tech to Pebble, because selling off the company instead of just the IP is where Pebble completely failed consumers. Pebble had something incredibly special, and then Fitbit bought Pebble and (for reasons I don't know) immediately killed all their projects and shelved all their tech. In a different reality, Anjan would have said, "Think of it as a Godzilla sized Fitbit watch with a decade of improvement". Selling just the screens seems like the obvious play here
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#44Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
I'm so rooting for you! Got in on Batch 2
When can we expect our favourite tech vloggers to share their thoughts on review units?
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#45Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
> Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Paperlike epaper display that has no ghosting and high refresh rate - 60 to 120fps. We started working on this in 2018. The website mentions 60hz, will it also support 120hz?
we're trying to underpromise and overdeliver, and our display can now do 60 - 120 fps, but believe it or not, our PDF renderer and software can't match that yet.
So we're waiting till we can holistically do 120fps before announcing that.
But if you do frame rate tests, you'll see its 120fps
(for the nerds out there, its 6hz-120hz variable refresh rate IGZO)
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#46Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Will I be able to install LineageOS on this - as I do on all of my devices ?
yes! we're going to come out with a bootloader unlock tool as well so you can do whatever you want
our goal is to be DIY friendly, so we included things i've always wanted in a tablet like:
- microSD card expandable - pogo pins for custom accessories (ie cyber deck FTW) - 2 extra physical buttons you can custom map
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#47Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Instantly bought this to support your mission A "calm" computer interface is such a welcome idea and quality pursuit Participating in the good of the digital world - information access, communication, creativity While mitigating the bad - always on notifications, bio-hostile blue light interface, doom scrolling etc I hope that this V1 release of your philosophy is successful enough to keep building To that end what a…
holy moly dude you are articulating our value prop and philosophy even better than we can
glad to be on the same team!
long term goals/plans
- make a whole ecosystem of healthier, distraction free computers.. phones, laptops, monitors, workstations, watches, PDAs, epaper whiteboards, etc - make awesome software that we can offer as public goods, funded by cash flow from hardware and memberships etc - make 'magical analogue objects' like actually good sunrise alarm clocks, time timers, calendars, habit trackers, better phillip hues, etc
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#48Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
So this is an advanced form of reflective LCD? Interesting. LTT recently tested a color display like that too[0]. A few Questions: Why is it black and white? Does the Image stay the same when the device is off? What is the surface like for the Pen? Is the Display recessed so there's parallax between pen and Display or is it laminated like an iPad? How is the repairability? Can the battery be replaced easily? How is s…
1) black & white because bayer color filter will cut your brightness by 66%
2) alas we gave up bistability for speed, so the image doesn't stay when you turn it off (however, we maybe can do quasi-bistability with this tech for watch or kindle sized future devices)
3) the pen writing feel is similar to my favorite japanese paper campus kokoyu. you could argue comparable to a remarkable or maybe even better for some
4)its all laminated / optically bonded
5) we can improve on repairability, its fine, but nothing stand out. we have big plans in the future here though
6) we're aiming to build the business on customer trust so we better be good at software updates! android is hard though, so its definitely a learning curve and requires a lot of resources
7) we'll do better to earn your trust around using our accounts - lots of plans in the coming months and years to be the best privacy + security + sovereignty computers!
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#49I've been dreaming of a device like this to run Obsidian on. I made an e-ink theme for Obsidian[1] but the refresh rate and ghosting of e-ink makes it less appealing to work with. I am curious to see if this device will solve some of those issues. [1] https://minimal.guide/features/eink
we have a couple units set aside for devs to optimize their apps to the daylight, email me and we can try to get you one!
many of our early testers / customers loved using it as an obsidian typewriter
anjan 'at' daylightcomputer.com
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#50Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Huge congrats! I've been dreaming of something like this for a while - instant pre-order!