Either I need to continue to pay to not loose all the items I’ve accumulated in the google world on this account, or after this experience choose to migrate my whole family somewhere else and deal with whatever other complexities that means, but cement my final departure from Google’s products, including finding alternatives for the other products I currently subscribe for from Google
Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#722Some of us should be categorically excluded from this whole "free product, what'd you expect?" sentiment.
And here's why. May I present... an email that Google sent me in 2006.
Wow, I'd almost forgotten that GAFYD was *not* the first name of this thing...
Note these keywords: 2006, beta, bulk, offer, helping.
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 19:31:46 -0700
From: hosted-noreply@google.com
To: ____@gmail.com
Subject: Gmail for ____.net beta tester invitation
Welcome to our beta test!
Thanks for helping us test Gmail for your domain! We're excited
to help you offer Gmail accounts with your domain.
Here's how to get started:
* First, click the link below. Log in with the same Google
Account you used to volunteer to become a beta tester.
https://www.google.com/hosted/____.net
* Next, we'll guide you through a series of steps to register
your domain for this service.
* We'll then ask you to create a new administrative account
for your domain. Most people choose something like
admin@____.net.
* You can then log in to the control panel (
https://www.google.com/hosted/____.net ) with your
administrative account. Within the control panel, you can
create new users, modify or suspend accounts, create aliases
and lists, and customize the look and feel of Gmail for
____.net. You can even upload whole lists of new
users with the bulk upload feature, and assign
administrative rights to multiple accounts.
* Finally, you'll need to configure your DNS MX records to
work with Gmail. Once you log in to the control panel,
you'll see detailed instructions on how to complete this
step. If you get stuck, you can access our help center.
Thanks again for helping us out,
The Gmail Team
---Here is the original, in screenshot form, redacted, with highlighting of those keywords: https://imgur.com/a/wQdMCIz
You see, they wanted to use my cool vanity domain to entice users to join their Gmail service. It was all about Gmail "on" my domain.
Now, let's talk about official notices and migration assistance.
You hear me, Uncle G?
I'm guessing that back then, you didn't know where this was going. But don't act like I've been freeloading... I *paid* *my* *dues*, and more. The least you can do now is help me pack.
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#723I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…
Something I just discovered is that Office 365 Family only lets you use custom domains if they are hosted by GoDaddy. If you want to use another domain registrar you have to get Microsoft 365 Business, which has a similar price as Google Workspace :( There's no way I'm moving my domain to GoDaddy.
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#724Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess Google feels it has enough of a monopoly they can afford to piss off any finite number of people (even very early peer-to-peer evangelists of their product) and write it off as business as usual.
I mean, how many people _really_ are using this feature? And what added benefit do they provide to Google for being "early evangelists". Not defending Google, just a little surprised people think that being an early adopter would matter to a company as large as _Google_.
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#725So, to check what happens I cancelled "Google Workplace" subscription in one of my burner G Suite free legacy editions in the "Billing" section for one of the domains I own. Upon the cancellation in the section with "Apps" there were 44 services left in "Additional Google services" and 4 in "Google Workspace". The latter includes Google Drive and Google Keep—both still active for all users. Though I didn't see YouTube in the former section.
After activating Cloud Identity Management free edition subscription there are now in "Additional Google services" 55 services (up from 44) including YouTube, Photos, Google Play, Pay, Books, Maps, Chrome sync, Web Store etc. All active for all users in the account. I checked and I'm still able to access and use them.
It appears in general the account for the organization and all registered users are active and are able to access all services—though with no access to all Google Workspace services except Google Drive and Google Keep. They are still active.
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#726Earlier quoted context omitted.
100% this... there is a product definition and the free bring your own domain model is not part of the free product definition any more. I'm having trouble understanding how technically literate people are grumpy about this. It was only a matter of time. Google is a business, not your friend and you should treat interaction with them in this lens. It's not 2002 when Google was the cool hip thing to use and they seeme…
> 100% this... there is a product definition and the free bring your own domain model is not part of the free product definition any more. I'm having trouble understanding how technically literate people are grumpy about this. People often react badly to bait and switch tactics. The solution is to offer people a way to revert to a free personal account without losing access to their files, data, and digital goods the…
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#727Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've posted this comment a few times in these threads. I'm in a same boat and did some digging with support and through the docs. When you cancel workspace, the accounts remain active but lose access to just the workspace features (gmail, drive, docs, calendar etc). The accounts will remain the same for things like google play, youtube etc and you won't lose access to any purchases. The biggest impact I can see, othe…
This is about people using G Suite legacy, not Workspace. You can't cancel Workspace if you don't have it.
G-Suite Legacy gets converted to Workspace.
Once you stop paying for Workspace, you lose functionality (GMail, Drive etc.).
Nothing stops you from *still* using that account for purchases and moving your e-mail somewhere else.
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#728I created a free account many years ago for my family. We've all been using it ever since for everything. So I have a lot of purchases and history in there. All of my YouTube stuff, all of my Android purchases. Everything to do with Google. And now they're going to start charging me $70 per family member or delete all of their purchases for the last decade or so. To say I'm aghast is putting it mildly.
I've posted this comment a few times in these threads. I'm in a same boat and did some digging with support and through the docs. When you cancel workspace, the accounts remain active but lose access to just the workspace features (gmail, drive, docs, calendar etc). The accounts will remain the same for things like google play, youtube etc and you won't lose access to any purchases. The biggest impact I can see, othe…
You don't have to lose access to anything except the core products - gmail, drive, docs, calendar. You still get to log on with your Google Account to access your purchases.
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#729"I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further". The problem here is there's no way out now. If 15 years ago you made the mistake of wanting gasp a domain for your email, you're basically roped into paying now. Almost everything a free G Suite user wants is identical to the free @gmail account, which is remaining free. Except the custom domain. Fine - but there's no way to just lose the custom domain at t…
There is no need to nuke all Google accounts. You can switch to the free edition of Cloud Identity - https://support.google.com/cloudidentity/answer/7319251?hl=e... You will still need to find the replacement for gmail etc though
- one that never had google workspace (had to signup for Cloud Identity Premium, then cancel right away, and add Cloud Identity Free from the Admin)
- one that had google workspace, removed the subscription to workspace form the Admin, then added Cloud Identity Free
So far it looks like you don't have access to Mail and Calendar, BUT you do get access to Google Play, Youtube and Google Drive and Docs!
Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
#730I've been meaning to migrate but am more than a little leery of the potential for gotchas and disruption. Any advice from those who have gone through this already? I understand you just lose all your Google Play purchases and need to re-purchase any apps or subscriptions you want to keep. I'm assuming this will basically require an Android phone factory reset and to be setup fresh with a "new" Google account for the…
You understand wrong.
You do not lose access to your purchases. You will still have a Google Account (with your own custom domain), it's just that after the conversion from G-Suite Legacy to Workspace, if you stop paying it it will not allow you to access the "core" products (Gmail, Drive, Calendar, whatever).
Nothing stops you from moving your e-mail somewhere else but still keeping the Google Account with that domain.