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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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There are 20 thousand containers on that ship. No, that's not a mistake. It says it can carry 20 thousand and I assume it travels at capacity. Even if you could somehow launch one every minute that would still take 2 weeks of non-stop bombardment. Fascinating how much stuff you can put on a ship and the scale of loading/unloading operation.

How do they load and unload these things in a port in only a couple of days?! Do the cranes take off several containers at a time? It's hard for me to imagine they can move a container off the ship and get back to another container in less than a minute.

You can have multiple cranes working on a ship in parallel, like in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=590t6mbebsc

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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post #107

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There are 20,000 containers on the ship. Assuming you needed to remove 1/4 of those containers to get it to rise far enough to get off of the sand, you need to move 5000 containers. Assume that it takes 5 minute to connect a bridle to a container, hook it to a helicopter, and move it...and then also assume that the helicopters can run 24/7 and never have to refuel, that they can hot swap in pilots, and that there is…

The ship is 400 meters long, you can take off multiple containers in parallel along the ship. I'd guess 4 at once.

Multithreading!

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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post #602

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Could you build a temporary barrier around the ship and the section of the canal, bring in some massive pumps, and temporarily raise the water level around the ship? Edit: Something like this https://www.hydrologicalsolutions.com/aqua-barrier-cofferdam...

Coincidence ... my town is actually installing these in anticipation of a Spring flood. Here's a drone video I took today! https://youtu.be/JRe2a-zHDbg I didn't realize they were water-filled!

Nice video, thanks for sharing. We shall defeat the water, with water! :D

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#725
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I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#726

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I know that is a joke but if you wanted to generate enough force to push the ship off the bank, a rocket is one of the few technologies that would do the trick. I wouldn't want to stand downwind, though.

you are thinking 1.0 scale. you need to start thinking starlink scale enterprising. quantity not quality. one rocket would rip the ship into pieces. what's actually needed is a long 2d matrix of rockets, distributed broadly the across EVER GIVEN, pushing the bow in, the stern out & back. out like she came.

Might as well make them fireworks while you’re at it so there can either be a celebration at the end or, even better, a celebration of failure.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#727
post #692

Fun facts: 1. The owner is Japanese 2. The operator is Taiwanese 3. The flag is Panamanian 4. The cargo is Chinese 5. The insurer is British 6. The crew is Indian 7. The canal is Egyptian and was built with forced labor by the French 8. The dredgers/salvage op managers are Dutch

Go, go gadget globalisation! Seriously though that's pretty amazing. Fun fact: corporations used to exist for a limit period of time, to solve a particular problem, and were then dissolved. With the introduction of indefinite corporations, we end up with cool setups like those /u/throwawaybutwhy has highlighted.

When and where did they exist for a limited period of time? It never even occurred to me that this was an option

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#728
post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

If you unload 20,000 TEU's onto rail cars it takes 5000 cars, double-stacked. That's 50 100-car trains. It'll take weeks to months to load and unload all that, if a proper rail depot is available to take it. It takes huge cranes to reach across a megaship and into its hold. That'd have to be build. On sand. The idea that there's any quick way to manage the cargo of this ship is whistling in the dark.

I agree with your reasoning here. I'm genuinely interested in your interpretation of the idiom, "whistling in the dark".

I have heard this as, "whistling in the wind", taken to imply sound waves are distorted by wind patterns since sound waves use air molecules for conveyance. Whistling into the wind would tend to dampen sound waves intended for up-wind listners. Whereas, whistling with the wind tends to cause a whistle with the same decibel level as the into-the-wind variety to travel a bit further to down-wind listners.

How would the medium of light impact travel distance of sound waves? Or is there a cultural reference here that is different for me as a American english speaker?

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#729
post #155

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Love the armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies

We have the luxury of just throwing around ideas and not caring about the consequences (because nobody in power will read it). It's just fun to think about how you'd solve a problem like this. For example I'd try to attach a two Raptor engines to the ship and blow it back to the water :)

The salvage company hired to fix this problem is probably just reading this thread and nodding along like yeah that could work. Great idea HN!
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