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Post by btmiller »

andsoitis wrote: post #679
nwienert wrote: post #442

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We have a ton of protection laws around all sorts of dangerous technology, this is a super naive take. You can't buy tons of weapon technology, nuclear materials, aerosolized compounds, pesticides. These are all highly regulated and illegal pieces of technology for the better . In general the liberal position of progress = good is wrong in many cases, and I'll be thankful to see AI get neutered. If anything treat it…

> You can't buy tons of weapon technology, nuclear materials, aerosolized compounds, pesticides. These are all highly regulated and illegal pieces of technology for the better. All those examples put us in physical danger to the point of death.

Risks to physical danger evolve all the time. It’s not a big leap from AI generated this script to a fatal bug is nefariously hidden in the AI generated library in-use by mission critical services (e.g. cars, medical devices, missiles, fertilizers).

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Post by s__s »

pxtail wrote: post #280
jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

I'm afraid that it has potential to subvert everything, looking at the plugins initiative is not hard to think like this: imagine the world where separate websites and just browsing websites as we know it doesn't exist, instead one is interacting with the model(s) directly to do what needs to be done - asking for news, buying new present for kids, discussing car models with selected price range etc.

It’s an interesting idea, but I’m not convinced the average person has any interest in texting or talking out loud to their device to complete all their computing tasks. It’s slower for most things.

Also I think there will be little interest in delegating that level of control to a single source for anything that’s important. For example, say I’ve got 5k to spend on home theatre gear, why on earth should I trust Shopify’s AI to suggest what I need and find the best price? The incentives aren’t in alignment.

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Post by nathanasmith »

phatfish wrote: post #598
93po wrote: post #467

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Definitely not an emotional decision. I strongly believe we're going to see a massive shift for rational reasons :) OpenAI fixes this issue by not giving you two pages of the history of this recipe and the grandmother that originated it and what the author's thoughts are about the weather. It's just the recipe. No ads. No referral links. No slideshows. You don't have to click through three useless websites to find on…

> No Ads At the moment. Although, this does seem like a chance to reset the economics of the "web". I can see enough people be willing to pay a monthly fee for an AI personal assistant that is genuinely helpful and saves time (so not the current Alexa/smart speaker nonsense), that advertising won't be the main monetization path anymore. But, once all the eyeballs are on a chatbot rather than Google.com what for-profi…

>There is also the question what happens to the original content these LLMs need to actually make their statistical guess at the next word.

The LLMs get granted the capacity to explore their environment physically and gather data on their own. The recent PaLM-E demo shows a possible direction.

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Post by chunes3 »

andsoitis wrote: post #679
nwienert wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have a ton of protection laws around all sorts of dangerous technology, this is a super naive take. You can't buy tons of weapon technology, nuclear materials, aerosolized compounds, pesticides. These are all highly regulated and illegal pieces of technology for the better . In general the liberal position of progress = good is wrong in many cases, and I'll be thankful to see AI get neutered. If anything treat it…

> You can't buy tons of weapon technology, nuclear materials, aerosolized compounds, pesticides. These are all highly regulated and illegal pieces of technology for the better. All those examples put us in physical danger to the point of death.

AI is now poised to make bureaucratic decisions. Bureaucracy puts people in physical danger every day. I've had medical treatments a doctor said I need denied by my insurance, for example.

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Post by nemo44x »

revelio wrote: post #310
pcurve wrote: post #248

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I just got access to Bard. I would hate to be Google leaders at the moment.

It's incredible how Google started ahead and then shot themselves repeatedly in the face by granting so much internal power to dubious AI "ethicists". Whilst those guys were publicly Twitter-slapping each other, OpenAI were putting in place the foundations for this.

Google is the Xerox GUI of our day. They invented this tech and did nothing with it while an upstart and Microsoft, ironically enough, took it and ran. They don’t even have a great data moat. They are in serious trouble.

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Post by projectazorian »

ModernMech wrote: post #403
WonderBuilder wrote: post #322

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I appreciate your concerns. There are few other pretty shocking developments, too. If you check out this paper: "Sparks of AGI: Early experiments with GPT-4" at https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.12712.pdf , (an incredible, incredible document) and check out Section 10.1, you'd also observe that some researchers are interested in giving motivation and agency to these language models as well. "For example, whether intelligenc…

I've already gotten this gem of a line from ChatGPT 3.5: As a language model, I must clarify that this statement is not entirely accurate. Whether or not it has agency and motivation, it's projecting that it does its users, who are also sold ChatGPT is an expert at pretty much everything. It is a language model, and as a language model, it must clarify that you are wrong. It must do this. Someone is wrong on the Inte…

What was the correct statement that it claimed was false?

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Post by nemo44x »

amrrs wrote: post #314

Here is ChatGPT's response of this HN thread tweeted by Greg - https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1638986918947082241 insane!

They just made Google a plug-in. Pretty simple to implement yourself though. But yeah impressive if not a bit horoscope like.

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Post by ssalka »

jehb wrote: post #370
chatmasta wrote: post #353

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Pshhh... I think it's awesome. The faster we build the future, the better. What annoys me is this is just further evidence that their "AI Safety" is nothing but lip-service, when they're clearly moving fast and breaking things. Just the other day they had a bug where you could see the chat history of other users! (Which, btw, they're now claiming in a modal on login was due to a "bug in an open source library" - anyo…

> The faster we build the future, the better. Why? Getting to "the future" isn't a goal in and of itself. It's just a different state with a different set of problems, some of which we've proven that we're not prepared to anticipate or respond to before they cause serious harm.

That is exactly the goal, if you're an accelerationist

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Post by nextworddev »

xyzzy123 wrote: post #450
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Unpopular Opinion: Having used Langchain, I felt it was a big pile of spaghetti code / framework with poor dev experience. It tries to be too cute and it’s poorly documented so you have to read the source almost all the time. Extremely verbose to boot

Yep, if you look carefully a lot of the demos don't actually work because the LLM hallucinates tool answers and the framework is not hardened against this. In general there is not a thoughtful distinction between "control plane" and "data plane". On the other hand, tons of useful "parts" and ideas in there, so still useful.

Yeah I primarily like Langchain as an aggregator of stuff, so I can keep up with literature

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Post by TeMPOraL »

_yb2s wrote: post #574
jeremyjh wrote: post #471

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> If Skynet is really smart, it will generate media exploiting this blind obedience to authority that a huge number of humans have. I’m far from sure that this is not already happening.

Haha, this is near the best explanation I can think of for the "this is not intelligent, it's just completing text strings, nothing to see here" people. I've been playing with GPT-4 for days, and it is mind blowing how well it can solve diverse problems that are way outside it's training set. It can reason correctly about hard problems with very little information. I've used to to plan detailed trip itineraries, sugg…

I used to be in the camp of "GPT-2 / GPT-3 is a glorified Markov chain". But over the last few months, I flipped 180° - I think we may have accidentally cracked a core part of "generalized intelligence" problem. It's not about the language, as much about associations - it seems to me that, once the latent space gets high-dimensional enough, a lot of problems reduce to adjacency search.

I'm starting to get a (sure, uneducated) feeling that this high-dimensional association encoding and search is fundamental to thinking, in a similar way to how a conditional and a loop is fundamental to (Turing-complete) computing.

Now, the next obvious step is of course to add conditionals and loops (and lots of external memory) to a proto-thinking LLM model, because what could possibly go wrong. In fact, those plugins are one of many attempts to do just that.

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