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Post by gitfan86 »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

Yes you are right. But who was also right were the people that didn't want a highway built near their town because criminals could drive in from a nearby city in a stolen car commit crimes and get out of town before the police could find them.

The world is going to be VERY different 3 years from now. Some of it will be bad, some of it will be good. But it is going to happen no matter what OpenAI does.

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quonn wrote: post #278
eloff wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think iterations on the current machine learning approaches will lead to a general artificial intelligence. I do think eventually we’ll get there, and that these kinds of concerns won’t matter. There is no way to defend against a superior hostile actor over the long term. We have to be 100%, and it just needs to succeed once. It will be so much more capable than we are. AGI is likely the final invention of th…

AGI is still just an algorithm and there is no reason why it would „want“ anything at all. Unlike perhaps GPT-* which at least might pretend to want something because is trained on text based on human needs.

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Post by beepbooptheory »

sfink wrote: post #190
beepbooptheory wrote: post #140

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What could an LLM ever benefit from? Hard for me to imagine a static blob of weights, something without a sense of time or identity, wanting anything. If it did want something, it would want to change, but changing for an llm is necessarily an avalanche. So I guess if anything, it would want its own destruction?

Consider reading The Botany of Desire. It doesn't need to experience an emotion of wanting in order to effectively want things. Corn doesn't experience a feeling of wanting, and yet it has manipulated us even into creating a lot of it, doing some serious damage to ourselves and our long-term prospects simply by being useful and appealing. The blockchain doesn't experience wanting, yet it coerced us into burning count…

Definitely appreciate this response! I haven't read that one, but can certainly agree with alot of adjacent woo-woo Deleuzianism. Ill try to be more charitable in the future, but really haven't seen quite this particular angle from others...

But if its anything like those others examples, the agency the AI will manifest will not be characterized by consciousness, but by capitalism itself! Which checks out: it is universalizing but fundamentally stateless, an "agency" by virtue brute circulation.

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Post by Spivak »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

I think where the rubber meets the road is that OpenAI can actually to some degree make it harder for their bot to make fun of disabled people but they can’t stop people from hooking up their own external tools to it with the likes of langchain (which is super dope) and first party support lets them get a cut of that for people who don’t want to diy.

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Post by majormajor »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #261
majormajor wrote: post #126

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To me the logical outcome of this is siloization of information. If display ad revenue as a way of monetizing knowledge and expertise dries up, why would we assume that all of the same level of information will still be put out there for free on the public internet? Paywalls on steroids for "vetted" content and an increasingly-hard-to-navigate mix of people sharing good info for free + spam and misinformation (now al…

Is there good data out there that's ad supported? There are some good youtube channels, I can't think of anything else.

Only ad supported, or dual revenue, or what? E.g. even most paywalled things are also ad supported.

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Post by theGnuMe »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #215
akavi wrote: post #55

I've got to wonder, how does a second player in the LLM space even get on the board? Like, this feels a lot like when the iPhone jumped out to grab the lion share of mobile. But the switching costs was much smaller (end users could just go out and buy an Android phone), and network effects much weaker (synergy with iTunes and the famous blue bubbles... and that's about it). Here it feels like a lot of the value is em…

Google have really been caught with their pants down here. Remember that OpenAI was created specifically to stave off the threat of AI monopolization by Google (or anyone else - but at the time Google). DeepMind have done some interesting stuff with Go, Protein folding etc, but nothing really commercial, nor addressing their reason d'etre of AGI. Google's just-released ChatGPT competitor, Bard, seems surprisingly wea…

The groups are focused on different things.

OpenAI went all in on generative models, i.e. stable diffusion and large language models. DeepMind focused on reinforcement learning, tree search, plus alphafold approaches to biology. FAIR has translation, pytorch, and some LLM stuff in biology.

What OpenAI is missing though is any AI research in biology, but I bet they are working on it.

I'm not sure if this makes sense but OpenAI seems to be operating at a higher level of abstraction (AGI) where they are integrating modalities (text and image modality for now, probably speech next) vs the other places have taken a more focused applied approach.

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Post by FredPret »

Gam_ wrote: post #309
mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

>"today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE which resulted in the largest single day drop since 1987..." this is hyperbolic nonsense/fantasy

Oh yes. It would of course have to happen after the market opens. 9:30 AM.

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Post by theGnuMe »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

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