Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up

And as this article points out, the zeitgeist of the moment is the presumption of guilt, so any accusation of being an *ist comes with tremendous consequences, and people are understandably fearful of that.

What you're observing that this creates an unfortunate vicious cycle: the fear of persecution for an accidental offense leads to disengagement which disadvantages the very people who the disengagement is meant "not to hurt."

This isn't a new observation.

MLK said: "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction ... The chain reaction of evil - hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars - must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation." [1]

I think this is where the extremes of "wokeism" and "social justice" miss the mark. When the mob is rallied to punish and seek vengeance against those who have done wrong, it can become a witch hunt.

To Dr. King the path to victory over oppression was through forgiveness[2].

"Here then is the Christian weapon against social evil. We are to go out with the spirt of forgiveness, heal the hurts, right the wrongs and change society with forgiveness. Of course we don't think this is practical. This is the solution of the race problem."

In the hypermedia era I honestly don't know if calm, civil discourse is possible. It certainly isn't profitable compared to the level of engagement driven by outrage.

But I think if we wanted to take the next major step forward it would be wise to look back at how much progress happened during the Civil Rights era, and specifically to understand how and why the progress was made. Can we imagine applying Dr. King's words today, to seek to understand each other, to identify wrongs done intentionally or unintentionally, and then to forgive each other for past mistakes so we can do better going forward?

[1]: https://mlk.wsu.edu/about-dr-king/famous-quotes/ [2]: https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/mea...

The issue is that women are, well, individuals. Who knew? Some like direct honest feedback. Others don't. The same applies to men. Perhaps on average women prefer the more gentle approach rather than the more direct one, but in the end it all comes down to the individual.

The problem with a lot of these debates, IMHO, is that they're framed as a group/gender debate ("men vs. women") centred around statistics and averages, rather than as an interpersonal conflict. I have definitely been the target of "mansplaining" by more than a few men, even though I am a man myself. I'll readily believe this happens more often to women, and this is an issue, but that's an average which doesn't necessarily say all that much about the social interaction you're having right now.

Interpersonal conflicts happen all the time. Between men and men, between women and women, and between men and women. There are loads of reasons for this; mismatched expectations, misunderstandings, lack of empathy, cultural differences, or just plain personality conflicts. It's part of the human condition.

But once you start framing all these things in a context of sexism it becomes tricky business to get it right. Being accused of assholery is one thing, but being accused of sexism is quite another. No matter what you do, sooner or later you will do something wrong because we're all just blundering through all social lives making tons of mistakes all the time.

A few years ago I attended a (local) programmer meetup; one women made a presentation I quite strongly disagreed with and we had a decent discussion about it. Afterwards I realized that perhaps I came off as a tad too strong (this was also quite recently after I moved to the UK from The Netherlands, which has quite a different culture). Live and learn. I don't think I did anything wrong as such and would have voiced things pretty much the same if it had been a man, but I was afraid that it was perceived as "mansplaining" by either the presenter or some of the attendants. I don't know if I was, but it's certainly possible.

It's hard... Unfortunately a lot of the more, ehm, engaged people on this issue seem quite unwilling to listen to men about this and learn from their experiences. This entire thing is really hard and if we're ever going to fully resolve this everyone needs to listen to everyone else. Men need to listen to women, but women also need to listen to men.

Yes, absolutely. Men do that all the time.