Now think about all the conspiracy theories that actually turned out to be truth. MK ULTRA, Dark Alliance, Tuskegee Syphilis Study, COINTELPRO, PRISM, you name it. Would these be banned ("fact checked") from YouTube, Facebook or Twitter under these new rules? On the other hand, there is a clear evidence that authoritarian regimes (Russia) are weaponizing social media, using troll farms, puppet accounts and fake news,…
> What is the correct solution here, that I don't know. I know, ban what is fundamentally rooted in bullshit. Homeopathy, "all and every vaccine is bad", "these essential oils will cure your cancer", "5G causes corona", "earth is flat". Done, there's no collateral damage, but helluva lot less lying.
YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation
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You don't even have to watch a political video. I have crap popping up all the time, "Watch this professor get destroyed by !" I know youtube is a shithole and yet it still surprises me. My son's favorite kid's show is only on YouTube so I created a new account, subscribed just to their channel and still inappropriate content shows up. How hard is this? I also can't block it for my daughter because she has school ass…
> I also can't block it for my daughter because she has school assignments that involve watching YouTube videos. Our school uses http://www.viewpure.com/ to avoid this. Also, I agree you don't even need to watch a political video to see political garbage on youtube. Last night they showed me some bizarre political conspiracy ad saying Pelosi and Harris are going to invoke the 25th amendment on Biden to make Harris th…
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He actively discouraged mask use. Fauci and the Surgeon General said wearing a mask was more likely to get you sick because you would touch your face more. "You can increase your risk of getting it by wearing a mask if you are not a health care provider," Adams said. "Folks who don't know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces a lot and actually can increase the spread of coronavirus," he added. https://…
Thanks. I don't know the whole story, but I cannot find Fauci's name (ctrl + F) in the last article you linked. It mentions a Surgeon and a Vice President. Surgeon General Jerome Adams and Vice President Mike Pence have urged people against buying and wearing masks .
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#714I'll preface this by stating that I hate the idea of censorship and I always have. However, were I to happen across someone motionless on the floor with a needle in their arm, I would give them NARCAN instead of a ride to a rehab center. I'm from the United States. Social media is currently poisoning our country to a degree that I think it may be too late to try and draw out the fight for free speech by using free sp…
History shows this to belief to be incorrect, and instead shows that any central power holding this belief will eventually commit terrible crimes against humanity.
A small group of "intelligent" people can not possibly out-compute billions of humans' brain processing power.
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> ...what YouTube is doing here is a slippery slope and it's scary... BTW, "slippery slope" was intended to be an example of fallacious thinking. Before it became a popular term, it was intended as a criticism of arguments of the form, "A will lead to B will lead to C, so A is bad." I'm not bringing this up (just) to be pedantic; the overwhelming evidence to date is that it is extraordinarily difficult to get any of…
No, a slippery slope is just that: A slippery slope. A slippery slope is a inclined surface, a place in space that once you are into, makes you transition very fast to a worse state, like your head hitting the floor at great velocity. That is you can start well, in a good state, and transition to a much worse state over time. Your definition is also valid but not the only one way to interpret it. It is an expression…
Anyone who felt a jolt when I mentioned the T word should see a psychiatrist.
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I don't know how this ever became an issue of "free speech" in the first place. This isn't a matter of free speech and never has been. If you call up Rush Limbaugh or Howard Stern in the middle of afternoon drive hour and he doesn't like what you have to say, he's going to hang up the phone on you (assuming you could get through in the first place). This is no different - google has absolutely no obligation to host y…
Free speech is a meaningless freedom if there are effectively zero public fora in which you can exercise it. "I said some garbage on Rush Limbaugh's show, so he hung up on me" "So then I put it on Facebook, but Facebook censored it" "So then I put it on Youtube, but Google censored it" "So then I self hosted, but then Cloudflare censored it" "So then I hosted it out of my own house, but then Comcast blocked it" "Oh w…
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Thank you for saying this. It takes the discussion in a different, but I think more useful, direction. Suffering is caused when you believe something that isn't true, and the rational idealists don't want to accept "it's natural for people to believe in lies", as you say. (There is a juicy irony here, which I will leave as an exercise for the reader.) The key innovation we require, as a society, are better feedback m…
> The key innovation we require, as a society, are better feedback mechanisms to correct inaccurate beliefs. I have come to the conclusion that managing our collective delusions is more important than correcting them. Reality is unbearable to the human psyche. Most collective delusions are benign or even beneficial to society.
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#718This would be great in a universe where it was possible to know the truth with absolute certainty. Scientists disagree about this stuff, so how is YouTube in a position to determine what's misinformation and what isn't? Why is censorship suddenly so in vogue now?
The article mentions specifically conspiracy theories saying covid vaccines will kill you or be used to implant tracking microchips. I don't think it takes a scientist to call that misinformation.
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Put another way, almost free speech works great for those with power, and badly for everyone else. When people advocate censorship of any kind, they're really saying, "I have the correct views held by the establishment, so I'm not worried about it."
> "I have the correct views held by the establishment, so I'm not worried about it." If the establishment's views are strongly codified and checks and balances are in place to maintain them, is that so bad?
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I am not claiming that. In fact, it's probably necessary to prevent that kind of disaster, and I wish YouTube would ban a bit more aggressively - but also with more thought and better review. (I seem to have been misunderstood quite badly, a sibling comment to yours makes exactly the opposite allegation! Also, I'm a Brit) The risk of any ban system is that true-but-inconvenient stuff ends up getting banned as well. T…
Nah if you wanted to prevent the genocide you need to kill the perperators until they stop. Blaming the channel for genocide is as facile as blaming encryption for crime since in both cases they could talk to the same people to plan crimes. Genocide occured when humans were hunter-gatherers stop blaming the tech for it.
(yes, this is a pre-crime argument, but crimes against humanity committed by and on behalf of states or warring ethnic factions are qualitively different from ordinary crime.)