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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by swinglock »

Silhouette wrote: post #223
Tomte wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not true. Your browser does exactly the same things that it did yesterday. If you chose to update to the new version where you knew exactly what extensions would be running and which wouldn't... well, your fault.

I didn't choose to update yet, for exactly that reason. The problem remains that now I have to choose between: 56 (without security updates) 57 (without many useful extensions) 52ESR (without functionality and performance updates, and only until mid-2018 anyway) Clearly none of these is as good as what I have had until this point.

You could try Pale Moon.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by aquadrop »

Yoric wrote: post #656
aquadrop wrote: post #644

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You've switched to multiple processes model, but you don't have "task manager" as Chrome. Do you plan to implement it in the future?

Working on it right now, but no ETA yet.

Ok, thanks. I hope you make it even more informative than the Chrome's one :)

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by hendersoon »

Yoric wrote: post #454
Silhouette wrote: post #415

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I hope time will prove you right. FWIW, Firefox 57 is currently looking like a net loss in terms of security and privacy. A significant number of the extensions people have previously used for blocking or restricting potentially intrusive or dangerous behaviours seem to have been lost, in some cases without equivalent WebExtension alternatives being available. If you're arguing that 57 is now more secure and better f…

> FWIW, Firefox 57 is currently looking like a net loss in terms of security and privacy. A significant number of the extensions people have previously used for blocking or restricting potentially intrusive or dangerous behaviours seem to have been lost, in some cases without equivalent WebExtension alternatives being available. First, I'd like to put things in context. When you write "Firefox 57 is currently looking…

100%? Your arrogance is frankly infuriating.

Firegestures had 270k users, according to AMO. A quarter of a MILLION people.

You broke mouse gestures entirely on MacOS and Linux, and didn't allow them to work well on Windows (DOM needs to load before gestures can be used because you force script injection, don't work on internal pages, don't work on top of browser chrome, etc).

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by beerbaron23 »

chmln wrote: post #705
parmesan wrote: post #116

I just updated - WOW! What an improvement! Compared startup time and scrolling around some over-monetized sites; Behaves just as well as Chrome. Time for a switch again, I've missed FireFox since I started having Chrome as my default browser back in ~2011

On Linux, its still night and day difference in favor of Chrome. I wish FF performance was as good as it is on Windows. As much as I want to like Mozilla, even with Quantum, there's pretty much no hardware acceleration at all, missing out on potentially big performance benefits. As others mentioned, e.g. VDPAU has been available for a long time now and there's no excuse for not taking advantage of GPU acceleration. N…

There certainly is hardware acceleration in Firefox on Linux, more then likely it has been disabaled because of your configueration/set-up/drivers. To turn it on go into your "about:config" and toggle the entry "layers.acceleration.force-enabled" to "True" and restart. Then Firefox is as fast as Chrome or faster, simple as that. Although it would be nice if there was a dialog telling the user their setup is incorrect/unsupported and giving them the option whtout digging into the config, I believe this is the number one reason people think FF is slower, cause their HW acceleration is disabled and they don't even know it is...

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by aibara »

patall wrote: post #614
anotheryou wrote: post #592

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What do you use? Some things are still a bit hacky, but it all comes together for me. I had everything packed, ready to move, but than came the ports :)

To be honest I have not switched yet, but the changes I have seen in TreeStyleTab make me question why I should stay at firefox with that because I can get the features of the new TST in Chrome as well. Also I won't work with Colorful tabs anymore. Further I think I will miss some of the decapriated features in the Zotero update. (And I will have to find appropiate replacements for Leechblock and FireGesture)

Leechblock is updated. The developer made it into a separate add-on though.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/leechblock-ng...

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by JoshMnem »

phillc73 wrote: post #628
callahad wrote: post #475

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Aside from the privacy / philosophy / openness / counterweight-to-monopolization-of-the-Web angles which Yoric mentioned, you might find we're actually better than Chrome in some areas. Often small things, but I find I prefer the feel of Firefox to Chrome. - If you do frontend work, our CSS grid inspector is unparalleled https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspecto... - Firefox has built-in tracking p…

> - Firefox has built-in tracking protection ( https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/11/12/firefox-to-offer... ) Is there a way to selectively unblock certain trackers on a specific page? I currently have the Tracking Protection set to Always and the block list on Strict. No problems yet, but I know there will be a few sites which won't correctly. Previously I always used Ghostery and there was a nice option to view…

Try umatrix.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by ajdlinux »

ywain wrote: post #698
ajdlinux wrote: post #686

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There won't be a bypass - Fx57 has completely dropped legacy extension support. This is a good thing, and it's just a shame that so many addons haven't been updated yet.

This isn't quite true. Support for legacy extensions is disabled by default, but can be re-enabled via the `extensions.legacy.enabled` flag in about:config.

Huh, thanks for mentioning that! I didn't realise there was still a flag for it - serves me right for not doing my research.

Though losing Electrolysis will defeat one of the main benefits of running Firefox 57...

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by JoshMnem »

pmoriarty wrote: post #410
chimeracoder wrote: post #394

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> Well, I'm a Firefox user, not an extension developer, and Pentadactyl happened to be one of the extensions that made using Firefox bearable. Now that it's permanently broken, Pentadactyl was all-but-abandoned for years before Vimperator was broken. It's been almost four years since it saw a release - which was for Firefox 24.0-30[0]. Its website still links at least three links to code.google.com on the front page!…

Despite there being no official releases in years and being abandoned by its official developers, Pentadactyl was kept afloat by its users, from whom you could still get fixes and releases through google code and google groups. I also fixed some things for myself, based on help from the community. Despite all this, it did finally completely break recently (before FF 57), and I just had to not update FF for a while un…

Pentadactyl was the greatest browser extension ever created. I hope that something similar will appear in the future.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by taurath »

Gave it a shot. My complaints on 20m of usage (2015 MBP):

1. Firefox is sitting at 15-20% of my CPU with 2 tabs open. I've never had the fan come on just from browsing tabs on chrome. I opened gmail while typing this and now I'm at about 50% of my CPU and the fan is blaring. Something seems very wrong.

2. The import from other browser (assuming say I already had an old version installed and selected "replace" on mac install) option is VERY hidden behind a bunch of menus. It also didn't import any of my cookies to google, HN, or probably most other passwords in the keychain.

3. Resizing a window feels really sluggish and not snappy, as does tabbing back and forth between tabs. It takes a noticable like 500-800ms to switch to gmail. Most tabs are around 200-400ms. This feels massively slower than chrome thus far

4. The design when typing in the search bar is pretty jarring, filling up a huge amount with white space.

I'll keep trying but if the CPU doesn't chill out this is basically a non-starter for me.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by WCityMike »

ywain wrote: post #698
ajdlinux wrote: post #686

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There won't be a bypass - Fx57 has completely dropped legacy extension support. This is a good thing, and it's just a shame that so many addons haven't been updated yet.

This isn't quite true. Support for legacy extensions is disabled by default, but can be re-enabled via the `extensions.legacy.enabled` flag in about:config.

Only in Nightly.
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