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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by StillBored »

Merad wrote: post #480
SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #428

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Tree Style Tabs has been updated to a WebExtension.[1] Getting a menu bar no longer needs an extension, you can just right-click in the blank areas near the address bar and select "menu bar". uMatrix can control and spoof Referer sending (I'm unfamiliar with RefControl, so this may not be exactly the same.) Self Destroying Cookies[2] is a good way to keep cookies under control, though again I'm not familiar with the…

So, dumb question (maybe), but how do you get tree style tabs to install? I'm running FF 57 but that page says it's incompatible because I'm running FF 51. I checked and the user agent string being sent is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20170125 Firefox/51.0;

Click "See all versions" and scroll down until you find one that is compatible.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by JonathonW »

tempestn wrote: post #603
Indolat wrote: post #338

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I think the new design is absolutely horrible.

I actually agree with you on a few fronts. 1) by default tabs are now white on a white background, with the active tab only being a slightly darker grey. 2) Everything is much more crammed together (tabs and bookmarks toolbar especially) which makes sense on a small laptop monitor, but on my desktop is just annoying. 3) Dialog boxes to confirm closing of multiple tabs have white text on grey background. (?!) 4) Folde…

What OS are you on? The default style on Windows takes your system title bar color (or a dark blue if you don't have Windows set to show the system accent color on title bars); the default style on OSX uses a dark translucent background. Both use light gray tabs and a light gray toolbar background.

If you've migrated from a previous version of Firefox and customized the browser at all, you may not be getting the default settings, though-- right-click the toolbar or Bookmarks Bar, and take a look through the options at the bottom of the page. Themes will give you an option between the default, light, and dark themes (it sounds like you're stuck on the light one); density adjusts spacing in the toolbar area. And you can check "Drag Space" to add space above the tab bar for dragging, or check "Title Bar" to turn the system title bar back on.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Finnucane »

dymk wrote: post #529
Finnucane wrote: post #518

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https://duck.co/help/company/advertising-and-affiliates

My point is that "they're not an ad agency" is not an argument that a company has some incentive to protect user privacy, and "they're an ad agency" is not an argument that a company is incentivized to sell user data.

Yeah, okay, DDG _might_ be lying about their privacy promises. They _might_ be tracking us all ways to Sunday the way Google and Facebook do. They _might_ have some seekrit, back-door ad sales department that nobody knows about and somehow they've managed to keep secret. Which, of course, is a great method for making ad sales.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by analogic »

Yoric wrote: post #438
HelloNurse wrote: post #345

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You forget the big technical issue: many web extension API features that are needed to port old Firefox extensions do not exist yet (e.g. filesystem access) or are conservatively crippled (e.g. adding buttons, menu items, other GUI elements). Your 2-3 months of frantic effort will start not immediately but in a vague future when the Firefox team feels like improving the web extension API. It is fairly obvious from AP…

You're pretty much describing what Firefox has been doing for the past few years. At some point, however, the rest of the world keeps moving and, no matter how painful for everyone involved, it becomes unfeasible to wait for all add-ons to be ported (or even portable).

not all, just mine

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by JadeNB »

callahad wrote: post #492
toweringgoat wrote: post #474

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Privacy is about the same, Mozilla Corporation (who distribute the browser) aren't non-profit, both are open source. Correct on community maybe.

The privacy situation is absolutely different; Mozilla has no profit motive to monitor and monetize your activity on the Web. For example, Firefox Sync is specifically designed so that we have no knowledge of your browsing data. In contrast, when you sign into Chrome, "Your experience in other Google products is personalized by including your Chrome history with your Web & App Activity."( https://support.google.com/c…

> Mozilla has no profit motive to monitor and monetize your activity on the Web.

But if a substantial portion of Mozilla's funding comes from an organisation that does have a profit motive to monitor and monetise my activity on the web, then surely that's almost as bad (for me as the end user)?

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by cptskippy »

helenius wrote: post #596
cptskippy wrote: post #535

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Am I missing something? I don't see how that ties into Firefox Sync to propagate changes to all instances. * Also, that's very cool regardless.

Not really, just that you need to be crazy enough to write and sync a file instead with e.g. Resilio or Dropbox.

Well I appreciate the link. That's certainly easier than editing properties in about:config.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by phillc73 »

callahad wrote: post #475
manojlds wrote: post #441

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If it as just as good as chrome, why should I switch? Especially given how good Chrome Dev tools are.

Aside from the privacy / philosophy / openness / counterweight-to-monopolization-of-the-Web angles which Yoric mentioned, you might find we're actually better than Chrome in some areas. Often small things, but I find I prefer the feel of Firefox to Chrome. - If you do frontend work, our CSS grid inspector is unparalleled https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspecto... - Firefox has built-in tracking p…

> - Firefox has built-in tracking protection (https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/11/12/firefox-to-offer...)

Is there a way to selectively unblock certain trackers on a specific page?

I currently have the Tracking Protection set to Always and the block list on Strict. No problems yet, but I know there will be a few sites which won't correctly. Previously I always used Ghostery and there was a nice option to view exactly how many and which trackers were being blocked on each page. When viewing the blocked trackers, they could be selectively unblocked one at a time if required. This was handy to make some embedded video work, without necessary enabling Facebook tracking, which would occur if the whole page was unblocked.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by msla »

johnpowell wrote: post #570
msla wrote: post #323

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And it's impossible to put the tabs beneath the address bar, or to have actual toolbars. Decades of UI/UX knowledge, down the drain. Usability is gone.

It took a bit of work but I was able to get it pretty close to how I had it before. https://i.imgur.com/qygcIv4.png I used the light theme and density = compact and enabled the title bar. And then I followed the instructions on this reddit thread to put the tabs on the bottom and the bookmarks above the tabs. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/6x2tmz/can_i_have_... I also added a little CSS to space things out…

Thank you for helping me instead of acting like you know better.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by msla »

Mizza wrote: post #460
msla wrote: post #323

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And it's impossible to put the tabs beneath the address bar, or to have actual toolbars. Decades of UI/UX knowledge, down the drain. Usability is gone.

I've found a way to move the tabs below the address bar here: https://github.com/Isaac-Newt/userChrome-styles

Thank you for helping me.
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