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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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The demo above uses the prompt "hi". The openclaw string is in the git history, which Claude goes looking for.

You're right, didn't read that properly. Okay then that actually makes sense if that's a (relatively) deterministic way to work out if openclaw is used

that is a terrible way to figure out if openclaw is used, hah

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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I think it goes beyond this. I was just using claude to edit a blog post which mentioned OpenClaw and I got this response: "The "OpenClaw" reference — I assume that's a typo or playful reference; if you mean a real product, I couldn't find it under that spelling and you'll want to fix or footnote it.". I gave it a direct link to openclaw.ai and the chat instantly ended and hit my 5hr usage limit. Could have been a co…

I was just using claude to edit a blog post There's your problem.

I mostly use it to get a general vibecheck, it's pretty decent for fact checking and identifying narrative gaps, as well as finding sources for things I know are true but don't want to spend the time to manually find. Having the LLM output itself get posted is pretty dumb and somewhat disingenuous to people who read it IMO, I'm not just shoveling that out onto the internet

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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It's fascinating to see all these bugs in Claude Code - HERMES.md, this OpenClaw issue, the recent thinking-message pruning and cache-skipping bugs. They seem like the class of bugs I see in my vibe-coding experiments, and I think the Claude Code lead has said many times that he/his team don't read the code for Claude Code themselves, that it's basically vibe-coded. If Anthropic itself can't make vibe coding work, wh…

I suspect there's strong management pressure to not read the code or do "old fashioned coding" Because this is the company whose CEO makes public pronouncements about how they're going to exterminate our whole profession any day now, how we won't be needed. So if that's your ultimate boss, do you think he's going to let you stop, analyze, cautiously review, hand curate, hand edit? To me the thing seems like a science…

Just imagine what they do with your data even tho they wont "train on it".... This feels like a "100% beef" moment in history.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Come on, folks. This is not a conspiracy. LLMs have a knowledge cutoff date. Opus 4.7's documented cutoff date is in January. Older Claude models are earlier than that. OpenClaw didn't have the name OpenClaw until January 30th. So indeed, even the latest Claude model does not know what OpenClaw is, unless you have it do a web search. If you have it search, it'll happily tell you all about it.

Knowledge cutoff is completely insufficient as an explanation. These models have access to a web search tool. Gemini and ChatGPT both happily search for give info on OpenClaw. Claude denies all knowledge. What’s more it’s this part that’s very concerning.. Banned for wrong think.. > I gave it a direct link to openclaw.ai and the chat instantly ended and hit my 5hr usage limit.

Claude does not use the web search tool unless it thinks there's a good reason to. If you nudge it to search, it will, and then it'll tell you all about OpenClaw. You can easily go try this yourself -- I just did. It works fine.

> I gave it a direct link to openclaw.ai and the chat instantly ended and hit my 5hr usage limit.

Again, go to claude.ai yourself and try it. It works fine. It happily tells you about OpenClaw.

Whatever happened to jrflo must have been a coincidence. It frankly doesn't make any sense for Anthropic to be trying to block this.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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I mean that also just sounds illegal...

Not if a chatbot did it, maybe. No legal precedence here. Also they are a defense and offense contractor they could kill people and nothing would happen

The chatbot didn't do shit? The person coding the chatbot put this explicit condition in place.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Frankly if a project asks for no AI and you try to use AI for it, then you kinda deserve this. Calling the inclusion of this sort of thing "smuggling" is placing the blame in the wrong spot

What if I use AI to just understand the codebase?

If you aren't reading the codebase, then you won't understand it.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Because AI is a new product category in tech, and every single new product category in tech always, no exceptions, insists on learning nothing from history, and so the dumb shit is repeated until they learn their own lessons. I am almost 40, and I have seen the same pattern play out several times now, it’s always the same.

> every single new product category in tech always, no exceptions, insists on learning nothing from history, I've worked in a bunch of industries and places over the years, and this is not just a tech thing. Like, there's a reason that saving a day in the library with a week in the lab is a pretty famous saying.

what if kings attacking and burning down libraries of advanced civilizations (Nalanda, Alexandria) is a way for humans to reset the world's knowledge, because we got bored of our achievements and want to start from scratch ?

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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> likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution A company that goes against their self-proclaimed values... What a shocker.

>> likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution > A company that goes against their self-proclaimed values... What a shocker Makes you wonder how much of the claims around Mythos are exaggerated to crate hype in advance of a IPO

Surely and AI company wouldn't exaggerate. Thats securities fraud!

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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A lot of the comments here are reacting to the censorship aspect, which is obviously an important point. But the more interesting subtext to me is that I feel like this gives insight into the situation within the company. I'm assuming they wouldn't do something like this unless the recent load issues (mostly driven by OpenClaw usage) were seen as an existential threat. So I'm guessing that's how the leadership views…

> The irony of course is that the way they've gone about reacting to this has damaged their brand so badly at the trust level that the public view of their company has completely flipped. I you are overstating how much of their user base cares about OpenClaw. Not nearly as bad as the DoD was for OpenAI (particularly because that cut into a pattern of how Sam Altman acts in general) But it is a reminder they are just…

I don't the OpenClaw furor has been a problem for the majority; but stuff like the harness bugs with dropped thinking traces (capacity optimization?) and some fairly bizarre billing bugs with weird/opaque comms around both have been more concerning and affect a larger group than that loud minority. You do kind of want a reliable service with reliable billing and reasonable comms for most things at the corporate level.
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