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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by bawolff »

andsoitis wrote: post #668
YZF wrote: post #667

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> We know that the soldiers lied about some of the facts and some have been disciplined and removed from command. Removed from command for killing aid workers point blank? That seems like a light wrap on the wrist, not commensurate with the severity of the deed, no?

> Removed from command for killing aid workers point blank?

But we don't know that that was the reason they were removed from command. E.g. if they failed to cooperate with the investigation but the investigators didnt find enough evidence charge them with something, then removal sounds like an appropriate choice.

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Post by KingMob »

xdennis wrote: post #648
igravious wrote: post #604

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> There was a second part to that which is "and surrender". Honest question. Why should they surrender? > Most or all of it in response to violations of the ceasefire by Hamas. A complete and utter inversion of reality. First page of Google results for: Israel ceasefire violations “How many times has Israel violated the Gaza ceasefire? Here are the numbers: Since the ceasefire took effect, Israeli attacks have killed…

> Honest question. Why should they surrender? To save the people they claim to protect. Just like in WW2, had the Germans and the Japanese surrendered earlier, the Allies wouldn't have had to kill so many of them.

That same logic applies in reverse, though, so it can't be the answer.

If the Allies surrendered to the Axis, it would have also saved lives.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by basilgohar »

YZF wrote: post #654
basilgohar wrote: post #564

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because it's not a war. It's a genocide. An occupied people have the right to resist their occupation. Occupiers do not have the right to prolong their occupation of said peoples. Israel is on the wrong side in all cases from its inception.

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You're right. It wasn't under occupation, it was worse. It was an open-air prison and concentration camp.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/14/gaza-israels-open-air-pr...

https://theintercept.com/2018/05/20/norman-finkelstein-gaza-...

If you're hung-up about the word occupation, then use the word under seige. Gaza was under seige the entire time you claim it was under no occupation. Israel completely controlled what went in and went out, operated a naval blockade over Gaza, and performed military operations known as "mowing the lawn" (population reduction measures) as well as shooting peaceful protestors. They literally counted calories of nutrition going to keep them barely above a starvation diet.

Nothing else you said in your reply is relevant. Israel has been occupying Gaza or worse the entire time. Typical Zionist deflection.

Ironically, your framing is the failure and your Zionism is showing. Don't defend genocide. Just don't do it.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by bawolff »

YZF wrote: post #667
Qem wrote: post #2

Full report: https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...

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> Upon reaching the aid workers, the soldiers moved between them and the vehicles and executed some of the aid workers at point blank range, as close as one meter away." -> we know not all the aid workers were killed. I believe two were taken alive.

This is the part that gives me the most pause. The FA report makes it sound like they went on a murder spree for the hell of it and then tried to cover up the evidence (i.e. they knew it was an ambulance and intentionally targeted it). But if that was the case, and they had no qalms about killing people, why would they leave witnesses and then release said witness a month later. If the motive was some ethnic hatred fueled revenge, why leave witnesses?

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Post by bentley »

dralley wrote: post #599
sosomoxie wrote: post #552

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> On the other side there was the famous "hospital bombing" news event early in the war where it was claimed that 500 people were killed, and then within a couple of hours it became obvious that the explosion was caused by a misfiring Hamas rocket, This is an Israeli lie. Not only has Israel bombed all of the hospitals, they murdered an entire NICU of infants. I can't believe people are still trying to justify blowin…

No. This is about a specific claim. Hamas claimed that Israel killed 500 people in a hospital bombing, and that was indisputably a lie. Videos show that it was a Hamas rocket, not a bomb. Pictures show that the damage was limited to a few burned cars and broken windows and a pothole sized dent in the asphalt. There were no mass casualties and every credible news outlet that initially reported that there were, walked…

(Correction: a PIJ rocket, not a Hamas rocket.)

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Post by smashah »

In the last 3 years, many users on HN have justified Genocide constantly and openly while downvoting any dissenting opinion trying to speak up against this genocide.

And all of them, without fail, when convenient, without consequence, will lie and act like they were against it. Once the genocidaires have built waterfront property upon the fresh tiny bones once the Board of Holocaust Profiteering is done with its demonic mandate.

The entirety of the upper echelons of the tech industry, now in bed with the death industry, is that one swimming pool scene from "The Zone of Interest". Shame on all of you. And shame on the rest of us.

We have failed as a peoples in history.

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Post by viking123 »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #581
porjo wrote: post #501

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The real question is: why is this on hacker news with 4 digits upvotes and why has Gaza been on Hacker News non-stop while there's been hardly any coverage of the islamist republic of Iran slaughtering tens of thousands of unarmed civilians in a matter of days. And I already know that although there's been very little coverage so far of what's happened in Iran, where islamists have been executing people inside hospit…

For sure there will be coverage if the Epstein class decides to go to war with Iran on behalf of Israel who obviously holds the blackmail on this, surprisingly few mentions on mainstream media about the Mossad honeypot that the Epstein setup was btw.

North Korea has nukes now and the threats to them have surprisingly gone quiet, I wonder why? Trump is instead writing love letters to Kim Jong-un.. Apparently having nukes is quite a good insurance policy.

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Post by viking123 »

krick wrote: post #600

I would like to know: is there even a single person here, who actually changed his opinion regarding this whole matter upon seeing this report? Not confirmed anything, but actually was forced to re-evaluate his opinion. Like, previously you thought that IDF are good guys, and all Israel does is justified self-defense measures, and now you see this as genocide of Palestinians? Of course, I assume, the answer is — no o…

I can tell you that the genocide and the Epstein files have made me to completely recalibrate my world view in regards to few countries. Absolutely. I bet many normies are going through these thoughts too in their heads now.

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Post by moi2388 »

mhb wrote: post #277
Vasbarlog wrote: post #249

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Oh, I didn’t know that the whole conflict started on October 6th. One side is governed by a death cult for sure, if you look at how many children they indiscriminately kill.

When do you suppose the conflict started?

In the 1947 Palestinian civil war, and they have been attacking and trying to destroy Israel ever since?

Also look at what they did in Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan.

Palestinians, Hamas and Hezbollah are not the good guys here. Not saying Israel is all good either, but let’s put it this way. Where would you want your wife or children to live if given the chance?

You can live as a Muslim in Israel, you can’t live as a Christian or Jew in Palestine.

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