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Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by nullfield »

dotancohen wrote: post #540
freeopinion wrote: post #352

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It seems you haven't learned the whole lesson. You're close, though. If you're going to be skittish, there's a better and easier set of rules. Don't use anything that involves an Apple ID.

The newer iPhones have such great cameras, I have have been considering an iPhone for my next phone. The only thing holding me back is the lack of built-in stylus. Does the iPhone require an Apple ID? I don't even log into my Google account with my Android device. If the phone requires an Apple ID, then obviously I'm not buying one.

No, it doesn’t require one… but you won’t be downloading anything from their App Store without one, leaving your only option for getting software onto it “Xcode after you build it yourself” since there’s no side loading. Xcode’s ability to do that may require an Apple ID or developer account; I’m unsure.

In the EU, the requirement to support alternative app stores would probably mostly fix that, but those of you in the US are kinda…

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by tonymet »

alex1138 wrote: post #640
rvnx wrote: post #523

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Lot of arrogant people here who think they are safe and better than anybody and blame OP. It is totally normal in today’s world to depend on cloud services and reasonably difficult to do without it. In China: no WeChat you are practically dead. Here try to join meetings without account, try to send a message on WhatsApp without account, etc… a lot can go wrong very fast. What if you used your Apple account as SSO to…

Commentators here presumably work in the industry, possibly even for 'the big companies' (I'd say FAANG but any big, life-depending, big-architecture corp, but you know what I mean, basically) They should be tripping over themselves of "How can we fix our corporate incentives to actually deal with customer problems". Not "lol OP, sux"

Crazy how the industry with the biggest margins has the worst contempt for their customers

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by dotancohen »

nullfield wrote: post #701
dotancohen wrote: post #540

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The newer iPhones have such great cameras, I have have been considering an iPhone for my next phone. The only thing holding me back is the lack of built-in stylus. Does the iPhone require an Apple ID? I don't even log into my Google account with my Android device. If the phone requires an Apple ID, then obviously I'm not buying one.

No, it doesn’t require one… but you won’t be downloading anything from their App Store without one, leaving your only option for getting software onto it “Xcode after you build it yourself” since there’s no side loading. Xcode’s ability to do that may require an Apple ID or developer account; I’m unsure. In the EU, the requirement to support alternative app stores would probably mostly fix that, but those of you in t…

Thank you. I'm in neither the EU nor US. I'll have to check this.

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by tonymet »

codedokode wrote: post #636
tonymet wrote: post #492

I back up regularly using Google Takeout and similar tools, but I don’t think it’s fair to shame this author . Even if you have backups , your recent and essential content and credentials will be locked out . 1% of your content is the most important We all depend heavily on cloud storage and sso . Everything works fine until you are locked out . And using them isn’t fully voluntary. They are necessary for collaborati…

> Every normal person has content in Google , iCloud , OneDrive , Dropbox and maybe more. That’s 4+ single points of failure It only means that the content is not valuable for them. I know people who created Google Account only because the phone required them to and they do not even remember the password or username, and do not use Gmail (why use email when there is Telegram). If they lose the phone, they would just…

Yes it happens constantly. I know many businesses who have their assets in the cloud .

Backup sounds nice and is necessary but is always out of date and recovery is totally impractical .

Many/most of the assets like indexes , references & creds can’t be reasonably backed up and recovered .

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Post by abustamam »

airstrike wrote: post #691
baq wrote: post #679

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That doesn’t make it untrue. Welcome to the today’s (whenever today was) lucky 10000, GP.

It doesn't make it untrue, it just sorta misattributes it. Or gives him undue credit as if he were some visionary, perpetuating that myth.

My intention wasn't to misattribute it. The fact is that I heard it first from Elon. I'm not sure what more you'd expect me to say.

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by ValentineC »

otterley wrote: post #156

Out of curiosity, why did you buy and redeem such a large gift card instead of paying directly? And was this a form of payment that was unusual in light of your account history?

It's trivial in some countries to get a 10–30% discount on gift cards.

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by nullfield »

mistercheph wrote: post #601
kmbfjr wrote: post #528

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Great advice if you don’t need a smartphone. Many do, they are now an identity tool. The alternative to Apple is…Google? How is that in any way better other than not being Apple? Sure, there are de-Googlefied versions of Android and today they work . But Google is actively working on ending the ability of those alternative operating systems to work.

just curious, where do you have to use a smartphone?

The US has just proposed making the ESTA application process mobile-only.

As an example of one.

Banks requiring device attestation may be a pain in the ass, but it’s not a “requirement”; they (for now) still have websites and, usually, a physical branch.

Other examples probably exist.

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Post by ValentineC »

TekMol wrote: post #592
wiseowise wrote: post #350

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If you're full in Apple ecosystem, like my GF, you get: - Shared clipboard across devices - Shared documents - Shared browser - Shared passwords - Free, quality office suite - Interoperable devices (use iPhone as camera on Mac, for example) - Payments across different devices (use clock to pay, for example, shared with your iPhone) All of this with just one account without any third-party service. And billion of thin…

Strange, I don't need any of that. And when I hang out with people who ARE in Apple's ecosystem, to me it seems they struggle more to get things done than me. Why would I want a shared clipboard across multiple devices?

> Why would I want a shared clipboard across multiple devices?

I guess you've never had to type something first on your laptop to paste in a phone app, or vice versa.

Or open a link from a phone messaging app in your laptop browser.

Re: Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help

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Post by wannadingo »

avazhi wrote: post #419
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #316

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I think you’re taking the message the wrong way. Those are the steps the commenter suggests you take to use these services safely. It’s not that these steps are reasonable.

So if they aren’t reasonable what’s the point of typing them out in a list exhorting others to implement them?

Because showing that the mitigation is unreasonable highlights how unreasonable the problem is.
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