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Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Obviously Google considered and prepared for a huge negative feedback when they have made this decision, so I don't think we can change that.

Having said that I can only see living with two devices going further: one locked down for banking & stuff and another one for freedom.

Unfortunately, I can also envision a locked down internet available only on certified devices in ten years. Absurd? A mere idea of a locked-down Android device looked absurd... yesterday. Just yesterday.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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post #407

Every day we stray farther from the premise that we should be allowed to install / modify software on the computers we own. Will once again re-up the concept of a “right to root access”, to prevent big corps from pulling this bs over and over again: https://medhir.com/blog/right-to-root-access

so we are doomed? since people don't even really get why right to repair is important this kind of concepts fly way above the head of most peoples..

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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post #503

The funny thing is Stallman started his fight like half a century ago and on regular days Hacker News shits on him eating something off of his foot and not being polished and diplomatic, and loves practical aspects of Corporate Open Source and gratis goodies and doesn't particularly care about Free Software. On this day suddenly folks come out of the woodwork advocating for half baked measures to achieve what Stallma…

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Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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post #503

The funny thing is Stallman started his fight like half a century ago and on regular days Hacker News shits on him eating something off of his foot and not being polished and diplomatic, and loves practical aspects of Corporate Open Source and gratis goodies and doesn't particularly care about Free Software. On this day suddenly folks come out of the woodwork advocating for half baked measures to achieve what Stallma…

Stallman actively hurts the cause with his behaviour. I'm not only talking about his eccentricities, but also the adversarial and combative language. Yes, Amazon is trying to swindle us, but few people will be convinced of that when you start your argument by calling the kindle an "Amazon swindle" every time, directly implying that anyone who has one is an idiot or even malicious. Yes, it's unfair that someone can be…

Frankly I find it refreshing in a world where everyone is obedient to the corporate overlords to have someone who just doesn't give a shit and calls it out exactly the way he sees it.

We don't need more polished people.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#706
This is just an extension of the increasing censorship and government / BigTech control that we have been witnessing in the past few years, with Google seeking the ability to prevent installation of any apps that is on a blocklist controlled by the government. And, like with the iDevices, this will also kill many free independent and open source apps once developers are forced to pay for "developer verification". "Free" apps are an anathema to the App Store business model.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#707
I used to be an android developer and they disable my account because I took too long to reply to their mail. Since then I have been unable to recover it, they never reply to email and process your request to oblivion. Their bureaucracy is even worse than our french administration and that is saying something! At this point google is basically digital sovietism.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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post #503

The funny thing is Stallman started his fight like half a century ago and on regular days Hacker News shits on him eating something off of his foot and not being polished and diplomatic, and loves practical aspects of Corporate Open Source and gratis goodies and doesn't particularly care about Free Software. On this day suddenly folks come out of the woodwork advocating for half baked measures to achieve what Stallma…

Stallman actively hurts the cause with his behaviour. I'm not only talking about his eccentricities, but also the adversarial and combative language. Yes, Amazon is trying to swindle us, but few people will be convinced of that when you start your argument by calling the kindle an "Amazon swindle" every time, directly implying that anyone who has one is an idiot or even malicious. Yes, it's unfair that someone can be…

> Stallman actively hurts the cause with his behaviour.

People arguing this should realize that actors fighting oh the other side of the war might act kind and use politically correct wording, but they're still eroding our freedom little by little.

Arguments like this ("his behaviour") really mean that people care about policing other people's behaviour more than they care about the actual topic being discussed.

Downvote me if you want, I don't care:

- Stallman, singlehandedly, did more than anybody else for freedom in the computing industry.

- People pushing those arguments a huge part of the problem.

- People like Stallman are a huge part of the solution.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#709
post #183

The worst part is the Orwellian opening sentence they start with in their blog post [0]: > You shouldn’t have to choose between open and secure 2+2=5 Truly the end of an era. I've spent nearly two decades buying Android phones because of a single checkbox in settings that let me have the freedom I consider essential to any computing device that I own. In a way, it's liberating, I've missed out on a lot from the Apple…

The only reason to be surprised by this sentence to associate this corporation for the cool "Don't be evil" Google of 25 years ago.

But in 2025 Google is some kind of IBM, Oracle blob with here a middle age MBA woman trying to gas-light you into an orweilian world she is paving for an awesome remuneration.

Also notice they do not say "open source" once in the post... now it is just "open". It is "open" but not your phone anymore.

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