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Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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This is how macOS works, without a signature they will tell you they can't guarantee it doesn't have malware and you need to go to settings and choose to run anyway (and most people don't even know about it).

Microsoft would love to do that too, but it just has too much of legacy software to introduce such a major hurdle.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#182
When people say just use Linux I can only think of what was known as far back as 2014.

> NSA: Linux Journal is an "extremist forum" and its readers get flagged for extra surveillance [0]

Looks like this is a part of the move toward Chat Control and ending E2E encryption.

[0] https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extre...

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#183
The worst part is the Orwellian opening sentence they start with in their blog post [0]:

> You shouldn’t have to choose between open and secure

2+2=5

Truly the end of an era. I've spent nearly two decades buying Android phones because of a single checkbox in settings that let me have the freedom I consider essential to any computing device that I own.

In a way, it's liberating, I've missed out on a lot from the Apple ecosystem because of that checkbox. Maybe finally I can let go of it now the choice is out of my hands.

[0] https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-...

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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post #155

Even aside from the privacy implications (which aren't trivial themselves,) Doesn't this make it prohibitively difficult to do local builds of open source projects? It's been a long time since I've done this, but my recollection was that the process to do this was essentially you would build someone else's (the project's) package/namespace up through signing, but sign it locally with your own dev keys. A glance at th…

A repo is just files in a directory, so the namespace can be changed, but the whole thing stinks. Having to setup Android signing keys and needing to provide ID is not fun. It means you won't easily be able to run builds on Google certified Android devices that aren't from "approved" people.

That's where the "prohibitively difficult" part comes in... surely they don't expect every developer on every open source app in the world to have their own app registration/package name for the same app, do they? Feels like an N * M problem, if so.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#185

I predict Windows will end up going this route before Google backtracks on it. This is the future; partially fuelled by malware, partially fuelled by the desire for platform control, and partially fuelled by government regulation.

control=surveillance

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#186

This is how macOS works, without a signature they will tell you they can't guarantee it doesn't have malware and you need to go to settings and choose to run anyway (and most people don't even know about it). Microsoft would love to do that too, but it just has too much of legacy software to introduce such a major hurdle.

Is the right-click -> Open workaround not a thing any more on macOS?

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#187

I never really got into "phone" progrmaming, always waiting for the shenanigans to die down. But somehow the shanigans have gotten worse and for a significant chunk of the world population, the phone is the only computation device they have at all.

i made and released some apps in the early days. Got tired of it and got tired of the reminders from google to add banners, screenshots, submitting icons to support multiple resolutions.. notifications that apps i haven't touched in decade are no longer compatible etc.

so much extra work involved that isn't building the app.

I worry how this will affect fdroid etc.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#188

They have the ecosystem by the balls. Phone manufacturers in recent years have been making unlocking & modifying their devices more and more difficult, google and app developers have been cracking down harder on modded devices by implementing TPM equivalents in the hardware to sign and verify that your system is a google-appproved one, and alternatives still are decades behind in terms of app ecosystem. I think they…

> and alternatives still are decades behind in terms of app ecosystem.

That's if they're available at all. In my country, only cell phones certified by the telecommunications government agency (ANATEL) can be imported, so the alternatives (Jolla, PinePhone, Fairphone) simply don't exist.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

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post #25

I cannot resist the urge to point out that we wouldn't have had this problem if people actually sticked to free software instead of "commercial use friendly" open source licensing

Free choice in the market is a lie anyhow. You are limited by what is actually been made available in the marketplace in sufficient quantity. "You can have any color you want, so long as it is black." - some old racist industrialist.

Re: Google will allow only apps from verified developers to be installed on Android

#190

I never really got into "phone" progrmaming, always waiting for the shenanigans to die down. But somehow the shanigans have gotten worse and for a significant chunk of the world population, the phone is the only computation device they have at all.

I never got into it because I was convinced developers would refuse to give up control over distribution when Apple started doing it. I wish I was right, but here we are.

Money is a powerful motivator. For better or worse.
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