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The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by lawlessone »

dmix wrote: post #668
taylodl wrote: post #556

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most American evangelicals support Israel. I'm not so sure if the rest of the remaining Americans also support Israel.

According to Gallup the majority of the US public supports Israel over Palestine, just as it has for decades. It's now "at it's lowest in 25 years" but it's still 46% vs 33% for Palestine, down from around 60% pro Israel in prior years. https://thecradle.co/articles/us-popular-support-for-israel-... About 10% of Americans identify as evangelical protestants https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/how-many-evangelicals-…

That drops quite bad for Israel though if means more Americans wouldn't mind cutting off support for them.

A lot more Americans support helping Ukraine.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by paulddraper »

nsypteras wrote: post #295

1984: U.S. withdraws. 2003: U.S. rejoins. 2011: U.S. stops paying dues after Palestine joins. 2017: U.S. announces withdrawal (effective end of 2018). 2023: U.S. rejoins, pledges to repay dues. 2025: U.S announces withdrawal Seems to be a revolving door

Tbf, if you remove the Biden 2023 pledge, the rest makes sense:

In the two decades between 1984 and 2003, UNESCO implemented a number of reforms in management+transparency+politicization, and the U.S. returned.

Then Palestine was admitted, and the U.S. left.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by megaman821 »

DSingularity wrote: post #445
pbiggar wrote: post #393

> UNESCO’s decision to admit the “State of Palestine” as a Member State is highly problematic, contrary to U.S. policy, and contributed to the proliferation of anti-Israel rhetoric within the organization. America First continues to be Israel First.

Makes you wonder what was in that dual-citizens (Israel and America) file that made the entire administration flip the script all of a sudden. Talking about Ep stein.

The stuff that HN lets fly here about certain groups would surely get the posters banned if they were about any other groups.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by lawlessone »

HappyPanacea wrote: post #576
kennywinker wrote: post #468

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FUD designed to allow the genocide to continue. In short: gazans are all issued ID numbers at birth. The ministry of health has published id numbers of the dead, which means you can do stats and tell if the data is fake. On top of that, so far (afaik since 2009 when hamas came to power) nobody has caught them in a lie. So they’ve a track record of telling the truth, and give us data that we can smell-test for fraud a…

No, they claim that a much higher percentage of those killed was civilians then was really was

The fact the IDF panic shot three escaping unarmed barely clothed hostages should make anyone question their statistics here.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by paulddraper »

tavavex wrote: post #671
braiamp wrote: post #562

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"In 2011, the United States stopped funding Unesco because of what was then a forgotten, 15-year-old amendment mandating a complete cutoff of American financing to any United Nations agency that accepts Palestine as a full member. Various efforts by President Barack Obama to overturn the legal restriction narrowly failed in Congress, and the United States lost its vote at the organization after two years of nonpaymen…

> 15-year-old amendment mandating a complete cutoff of American financing to any United Nations agency that accepts Palestine as a full member As a non-American, doesn't this seem a little ridiculous to some people in the US? This screams of a kind of melodramatic, overdone theatrics that the US doesn't seem to do to anyone else. I get that the US has a lot of Israeli money/investments/customers and extremely religio…

I think it has more to do with terrorism and anti-Western sentiment than with religion.

I expect the same treatment for Iran and North Korea.

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Post by breppp »

aaronax wrote: post #536
breppp wrote: post #531

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That (95,000 / 600 = 158 trucks) is actually much less than 500.

yes my bad, i posted the false figure, its actually 70 of food prewar according to the organization that allows the trucks entering in

https://x.com/cogatonline/status/1774174849650278480

500 is the trucks per day including building materials and industrial goods rather than only food

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Post by vjvjvjvjghv »

watwut wrote: post #218
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #129

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I think it’s a symptom of how bad the democrats are. They can’t create a compelling message that people really care about. “I am a little better” just doesn’t cut it anymore

Nothing is ever fault of conservatives and libertarians. No matter what, someone else has to be blamed.

Complaining about them isn’t going to win elections for the democrats.

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Post by andrepd »

bobnotbob wrote: post #625
kennywinker wrote: post #615

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Last I checked motorcycles aren’t edible and gasoline isn’t drinkable…

If only there was some way to exchange one type of an asset, such a motorcycle, to another, such as food... Too bad nothing like this was invented yet.

There's no food smart guy, who's he going to buy food from?? [0] His motorcycle is also his only means of transportation and thus his livelihood likely depends on it. Even if he could pawn it for 2 days of food for his family, should he?

Jesus christ.

[0] Reminds me of someone saying to a rapt audience that people in coastal areas flooded by sea level rise would just "sell their houses and move" (sell their houses to whom, fucking aquaman?).

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by paulddraper »

bdcravens wrote: post #591
rafram wrote: post #441

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> It’s one big club, and we’re not in it. I’m not sure what you’re trying to imply here, but like it or not, most Americans do support Israel.

On specific issues, perhaps. (such as against Hamas) Overall, it seems that support is waning. (46% according to Gallup) https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/less-half-sympathetic-to...

But even fewer support Palestine, which is what the UNESCO policy is about.
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