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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Whence the salient and more pressing question: why does the gop in the legislative branch take a zero? We've all had bad bosses ... and that's a problem, but it's 10x worse when the people around know better and do nothing.

They're afraid of losing to a primary challenger if they break with Trump. It used to be a Trump endorsement would hurt your campaign. Now a Trump critique is believed to be a scarlet letter. He's got a lock on the racist zealots that make up the most consistent voting bloc in the GOP.

They never picked off Newhouse, IIRC.

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Because they accidentally sent at least one person there already? Who remains there, despite SCOTUS ordering his return? https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a949_lkhn.pdf > Instead of hastening to correct its egregious error, the Government dismissed it as an “oversight.” > The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his c…

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I understand it's cool to slam Harvard these days but it is nonetheless a behemoth when it comes to research output. https://www.harvard.edu/about/history/nobel-laureates/ https://www.nature.com/nature-index/research-leaders/2024/in... https://hms.harvard.edu/about-hms/history-hms/timeline-disco... https://www.harvard.edu/in-focus/innovation/ Roughly a third of the 50-something of Harvard's Nobel laureates were immig…

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can you give an example?

Everything Columbia University did and what they got in return.

i was hoping for an example out of this particular domain (because i cant think of one), but it'll do.

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Wouldn't it be easier for Harvard to move to where it can function as a university, instead of putting up with this? It's not entirely unprecedented. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_University .

This might not be a bad idea. Setting up satellite institutions in other countries as backup, for example.

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Maybe, but I doubt it. Trump is not a mafia boss - time after time he showed that his words cannot be trusted. If Harvard makes a concession, there's no guarantee that Trump will "forgive" it. Look how China is dealing with Trump. Trump announces tariffs, China returns Boeing planes, tariffs somehow comes down.

Penn should support Harvard and publicly revoke Trump's degree. Bullies only understand force.

What force does that possibly employ?

When you revoke the degree of a sitting president, that costs him...?

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> The issue here seems to be that Harvard is not turning over student records that can be used to determine if a student visa holder has violated their visa.

That's a falsehood. There are no visa conditions for "nver attend a meeting of a club the President doesn't like."

Even if there were, that would be blatantly unconstitutional.

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Can someone ELI5 the power networks involved here? I didn't expect to see Harvard getting smacked around or humiliated like this. Between Harvard, Yale, and possibly a few other schools, I thought they had influence throughout government. And that key figures in government were interested in maintaining and benefiting from that influence. And a lot of that influence seemed aligned with national interests. (For exampl…

For every person that went through these elite schools, they must have rejected five or more other people. These schools pride themselves on turning people away. Perhaps, they have far more enemies than friends, explaining their seeming lack of influence in this situation

They absolutely prize having large pools of applicants to reject. Admission percentage is a prestigious statistic.
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