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Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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So how are they able to deliver at such low rates and why can’t other work it out and use that as well

Because it's subsidised or effectively subsidised by treaty - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Postal_Union AFAICT it means that postal costs are only paid in the originating country, and receiving countries are still obliged to deliver.

But the postal costs still have to be paid, even if it is in China (wow, 4 2-letter words starting with an "i").

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> we'll be either supporting local workers or friendly nations Are there any friendly nations left?

What about buying some largest-in-the-world microcontrollers from Russia?

While I like the joke, Russia is actually making its own original microcontrollers, for example see K1921VG015 (RISC-V 32/50 MHz/1M flash/256K SRAM/square 100-pin package). The $6 price tag seems a little bit expensive to me but well the developers want to eat something too. There are also ARM-based microcontrollers (much more expensive), and of course (even more expensive) famous Elbrus CPUs with unique VLIW architecture.

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What about buying some largest-in-the-world microcontrollers from Russia?

While I like the joke, Russia is actually making its own original microcontrollers, for example see K1921VG015 (RISC-V 32/50 MHz/1M flash/256K SRAM/square 100-pin package). The $6 price tag seems a little bit expensive to me but well the developers want to eat something too. There are also ARM-based microcontrollers (much more expensive), and of course (even more expensive) famous Elbrus CPUs with unique VLIW archite…

Elbrus CPUs were produced by TSMC though. So they're dead since 2022.

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While I like the joke, Russia is actually making its own original microcontrollers, for example see K1921VG015 (RISC-V 32/50 MHz/1M flash/256K SRAM/square 100-pin package). The $6 price tag seems a little bit expensive to me but well the developers want to eat something too. There are also ARM-based microcontrollers (much more expensive), and of course (even more expensive) famous Elbrus CPUs with unique VLIW archite…

Elbrus CPUs were produced by TSMC though. So they're dead since 2022.

Cannot they be produced in China once China develops the technology? As far as I remember, they don't use the latest process node anyway.

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I ended up drastically cutting back on Amazon purchases when they started getting flooded with brands like that. Its absolutely on Amazon to maintain quality. There are certain brands and types of products I'll order there because they're just harder to find otherwise, but its mostly a last resort these days given that Amazon doesn't care to curate what is on their "shelves".

If the quality sucks (or at least doesn't match expectations), return it. Shipping is fast and returns are easy. The vendor takes the consequence of the return. Rarely do I buy product that has subpar quality that I need to return it. Just do your research. This is why I still buy from Amazon.

Returns aren't easy when Amazon threaten to ban you for returning too many items.

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The tariffs that were announced during the campaign - the same way Ross Perot did - and the reasoning was to bring us manufacturing back to the US and reduce the tax burden on US citizens? Such as writing off car payments if the car is American? People wigged out over non-reciprocal tariffs, where we tariff at 50% what they charge the US. People wigged out at 10℅ flat rate tariffs. "Heard island penguins get charged…

The tariffs were definitely part of the campaign, described in detail in Project 2025 and will eventually replace higher brackets of the income tax. This consumption tax is tax policy, not trade policy. That was evident when there was not even any discussion about excepting manufacturing inputs (neither this time nor the 45th administration).

Wouldn't it be fairer to remove the lowest tax bracket, or move all tax brackets higher?

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Elbrus CPUs were produced by TSMC though. So they're dead since 2022.

Cannot they be produced in China once China develops the technology? As far as I remember, they don't use the latest process node anyway.

I'm no hardware guy so no clue how easy it's to move from 28nm TSMC process to some other 28nm process that China supposedly might soon have according to the news.

But honestly I doubt China would just enable Russia develop and produce own CPUs. When it's comes to chinese everything they never localized production in Russia: heavy machinery, cars, electronics, etc. They are main benefactors of Russia not having own anything.

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That's not what happens. You see the price tag, you just don't buy it, is what happens.

That's not how tariffs work. You pay the sticker price, which does not include tariffs. The package ships. It arrives at the US border, and the carrier (DHL or whoever) bills you for the import tax before it leaves the port. Maybe this will change, but up until now when importing things, tariffs were not part of the price paid to the seller.

I see some ways this could be exploited.

Let's say I have a nemesis, I could in theory spend 100$ in packages from China, and ship it to them. And they'll have to pay 245$ in tariffs ? (245% today).

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Do you have any substantiation for either the point that onerous regulations are the primary impediment or that most of these have been created since 2008 (by fiat or otherwise)? It's always going to be cheaper to make things in places where labor costs and environmental responsibility expectations are low.

> It's always going to be cheaper to make things in places where labor costs and environmental responsibility expectations are low. Yeah, offshoring was mostly about driving down costs by laundering labor and environmental law.

That's why the manufacturing companies did it. The politicians allowed it because it was meant to make the world more peaceful and prosperous. Which it did, really.

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Shopee has even worse behavior around reviews. You can't even leave a review past the first few days, and they bribe you with shopee points to leave a review. The result is people opening the box, going yep, it works, 5 stars, gimme those points. If it breaks a week or so later? Too late! No way to give feedback.

Shopee allows you to post follow-up reviews, and gives you a grace period of 45 days to post reviews. If you want compare, at least compare with facts.

I just checked and I cannot edit any old ratings. Maybe it's something you can only do through the app?

I can't install the app because I travel between countries and they block my Google account from installing the local app. I'm sure there's ways around that but I'd rather just use the website.

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