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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by panick21_ »

simondotau wrote: post #675
BurningFrog wrote: post #118

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I don't understand Elon either, but I'm certain that he's not an impulsive moron who doesn't understand complex system, or that he's financing all this with his dad's emerald mine money. For me, there is enough track record to prove he has some very unique business skills, and often succeeds by doing things that conventionally looks crazy. That said, Elon's Twitter may well be a failure regardless. Pretty sure it won…

The emerald mine claim comes from statements made by Errol Musk (Elon's father) who described it as a part share in an Zambian mine which resulted in a total lifetime revenues in the order of a few hundred thousand dollars. None of what Errol has said has been corroborated by anyone. No independent sources exist. It's also worth noting that Zambia is not a conflict gem country and an emerald mine in Zambia would not…

I saw a recent Twitter take that was like:

"Who payed for those computers in the 90s that Musk had access to?"

Its like yeah ok, he wasn't found in a dumbster during a civil war. Is that the level now, where nobody can get any credit because they were not born into abject poverty?

That just basically means that 99% of people who achieve anything don't deserve credit for anything.

Its basically materialist logic taken to an absurd degree.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by rideontime »

panick21_ wrote: post #690
pkulak wrote: post #454

Elon is the PM from hell. Has some shower thought and starts throwing tickets on everyone's board 45 minutes later. This is why the Model X has those silly doors.

Model X is one of the best selling electric cars in the US and has very large margin for Tesla. It made a lot of news and an differentiates it from other vehicles in the class. I'm not sure I would consider it a failure.

Who said it was a failure? Parent merely said it has silly doors.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by tedunangst »

tptacek wrote: post #625
paxys wrote: post #570

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As if Elon needs 20 dollars.

He needs something, because he's tied tens of billions of dollars of his own money in an LBO that left him in control of a company with about a billion dollars a year of debt service cost.

That's a mere 10 million blue checkmarks he needs to sell.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by scythe »

dan-robertson wrote: post #285

The dynamics on Twitter are quite weird. There’s a small number of users with potentially lots of followers for whom Twitter is an important part of their work or life. If you’re a journalist, being on Twitter is basically part of your job so maybe you should have to pay a bit more just like the customer of some business software ($100 pa seems pretty cheap there). Indeed maybe media publications should be paying for…

Twitter's market position gives it plenty of power if they just figure out how to use it. If they gave free blue checks to government officials, tenured professors at accredited universities, and licensed medical practitioners, they could easily get away with forcing everyone else to pay. It's the standard nightclub trick: women get in free, men pay. People will pay to be in a group with the highly regarded people you gave free entry to.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by jpgvm »

deelowe wrote: post #643
pie420 wrote: post #568

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The model X is also probably one of the most profitable and iconic cars in the modern era.

Isn’t it their worst performing model?

By number of sales it's a wash between it and the S. Which are both low volume, high margin, luxury vehicles. Their high volume vehicles, the 3 and the Y drastically out-sell them naturally.

However the X and the S have very high margins in all configurations so they bring in an outsized amount of profit given their share of sales.

That said the margins on the Model 3/Y are nothing to snuff at and are superior to any other mass market vehicle.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by hello639 »

thepasswordis wrote: post #686
pkulak wrote: post #454

Elon is the PM from hell. Has some shower thought and starts throwing tickets on everyone's board 45 minutes later. This is why the Model X has those silly doors.

>Elon is the PM from hell. And yet his companies are some of the most difficult to get a job at. Interesting.

> And yet his companies are some of the most difficult to get a job at. Interesting.

It’s more difficult to get a tech job at FBI/CIA than Google. Does that make the US government a more desirable place to work?

As an aside, top talent definitely does NOT work at Elon’s companies. Top talent knows that “a good company mission” does not pay for rent, mortgage, or daycare.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by tsol »

initplus wrote: post #460
dan-robertson wrote: post #285

The dynamics on Twitter are quite weird. There’s a small number of users with potentially lots of followers for whom Twitter is an important part of their work or life. If you’re a journalist, being on Twitter is basically part of your job so maybe you should have to pay a bit more just like the customer of some business software ($100 pa seems pretty cheap there). Indeed maybe media publications should be paying for…

For journalists it's not basically part of your job, it often literally is! Many media organisations require their reporters to maintain an active online professional presence on Twitter.

I once wanted to be a journalist in college. Lucky for me, I had a teacher who was a former newscaster for the local Fox news station teaching a class on just that. Long story short, she connected me with someone currently working as a journalist. His advice? Everyone is freelance now, only a rare lucky few are permanent staff writers today. You have to have a social media following, first thing to do is start a Twitter account and build a presence. He also heavily hinted that I should not enter the field unless I absolutely love it because it's getting to be an awful job. Just my experience.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by dmak »

harry8 wrote: post #616

Twitter now blocks you from reading a timeline unless you have an account and are logged in for which they require a current phone number. No politician nor public servant nor government department should be able to use it under those circumstances. They really need silent accounts, that cannot tweet and are completely anonymous.

You can create an account with just your email

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by tsol »

CydeWeys wrote: post #528
mjfl wrote: post #441

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and now we have more of a paper trail to stop them

You really don't though. It's trivially easy to create new valid unique payment information with a free virtual credit card number and a fake name/address. This is a very hard problem to truly solve.

Sounds like a valuable problem for twitter to play cat-and-mouse with. They literally make money for every try.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by ForHackernews »

jltsiren wrote: post #620
koonsolo wrote: post #415

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> In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. There is a very big difference between Twitter and YouTube, and it's obvious once you know it. Look at the most popular people on twitter: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Twitte... All celebrities outside of twitter. Then look at YouTube: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouT... Almost all made famous by YouTube.…

Twitter is basically a broadcast platform for people who matter "in the real world". It gives them an easy way to reach their audience on their own terms without any middlemen. As a centralized platform, Twitter creates more value for those who follow than those who broadcast. Because the broadcasters are primarily known for something other than the "content" they create on the platform, they would find their audienc…

> on their own terms without any middlemen.

Twitter is the middle-man.

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