Making the dislike count private across YouTube • Hacker News Board

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by thread_id » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 11:52 PM UTC

Funny thing about that.... I never pay any attention to the likes or dislikes or even the comments. I sample the video and if I like it I watch and if not move on to the next. Can't be even the leaset bit bothered by the social interaction noise. I'm surprised to here that others actually take meaning from it.

So I read through the comments more and many deal with quality of content - for example instructions that are flat out wrong. I viewed a video on how to change spark plugs in Honda 6 cylinder car. The content creator gave the instruction to put dielectric grease right on the tip of the spark plug. I found a comment that pointed out how utterly stupid this was. Yet the comment was pushed lower by many comments praising the contect creator for his helpful video. So I have to conclude that down votes are a usefull tool. Even if they are misused.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#702

Post by dvhh » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 11:53 PM UTC

I think there is an opportunity here for a browser extension to rate content.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#703

Post by hstan4 » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 11:53 PM UTC

If people want to actually argue that a creator can be harassed by a dislike button, why not give the creator the option to disable dislikes for that specific video rather than pushing this onto every video out there?

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#704

Post by nigrioid » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 11:53 PM UTC

This is because of all the COVID-19 mainstream media videos with far more dislikes than likes.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 11:53 PM UTC

_nothing wrote: post #642

> We understand that some of you have used dislikes to help decide whether or not to watch a video – still, we believe this is the right thing to do for our platform So basically, "We understand that this feature is useful in helping you determine where to spend your time and attention, but we're going to do it anyway because it benefits us." > and to help create an inclusive and respectful environment where creators…

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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#706

Post by dingle_thunk » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 11:54 PM UTC

There's a like button and no dislike button on the freaking blog post. Can you imagine the dislike ratio on this if they allowed it?

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#707

Post by markmark » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 11:55 PM UTC

summerlight wrote: post #263

As usual, HN users are making lots of interesting assumptions (some comments to a conspiracy level) on the intention here... But in the reality, there are many smaller creators who is frequently being harassed by trolls (have you heard about those young Chinese patriots trolling over Korean and Japanese channels?) and one of their tool is the dislike button. And creators have been complaining about this for many year…

I'm just surprised by how many people apparently looked at dislike counts. I read this headline and thought "who cares" then saw there were 900 comments and only came in to see what the controversy was.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#708

Post by narrator » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 11:56 PM UTC

I always said that youtube is too successful and is looking for ways to get rid of users. Peak youtube, as far as pure power for users, was probably the late 2000s. 2016 was when things started to go downhill.

We have a lot of problems where our society has been too successful at its technological goal. Inequality, climate change, gun control. All areas where capitalist economics has produced wild success and enormous effort is diverted from other useful goals to control that success.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#709

Post by jarek83 » Thu, Nov 11, 2021, 12:00 AM UTC

emkoemko wrote: post #350

jarek83 wrote: post #150

How this is useful to people wanting to watch meaningful content? Like many wannabes post football games highlights that just turn out to be some fake content. I can quickly figure that out by seeing 95% dislike ratio. Now I'll be forced to experience it by myself (and watch ads before it of course)

what about all the crazy stuff on Youtube? conspiracies? fake bs etc etc now it will just have likes? sounds like a good idea :) and lots of people watch Youtube on smart tvs with no way to see comments, what on earth is Google doing

Seems like Google does not know internets. No wonder, they are like a cancer to Internet for long time now.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#710

Post by kf6nux » Thu, Nov 11, 2021, 12:01 AM UTC

I'm a little surprised no one reached for the obvious humor here: Google spends hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn humans will create mobs.

This was such an obvious/good change to make. Viewers will still be able to use views:upvotes ratio for determining a video's popularity/worth. A mob won't want to attack that ratio because a high view count could encourage more views.

Judging by what's bubbling up on HN, I guess I'm in the minority on this one.