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A fair warning to developers: You're getting into an adventure with M1. From docker images not built for M1 with segmentation faults on qemu (eg. Liquibase for spring developers), to _significant_ troubles trying to make React native apps build with the M1 and XCode. Don't get me wrong, I have a Macbook air M1 and I love it, but it hasn't been a love without pain. Also, the magsafe feels like it comes too late. Almos…

What’s the problem with building React Native apps?

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…

>that (apparently) matches a 3070 I don't want to know the thermals on the laptop then. There is a reason for the 3070 being available with a minimum of 2 large fans and liquid cooling existing at all. How do you want to cool the same performance in a thin laptop? With passive airflow? For reference, this is what a laptop with the mobile (!) version of a 3070 looks like: https://gzhls.at/i/89/84/2618984-n1.jpg It's a…

given how m1 macs perform, thermals significantly better than any laptop with non-apple stuff inside.

nvidia/amd just don't design with thermals in mind and that's exactly why you need to attach multiple helicopters to every piece of their hardware.

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Nice. Ports are back. Very nice. Prices are up. Not nice. The deal breaker is the notch. Sorry Apple I am a designer. I cannot watch this 24/7. Even if the top bar is black the notch will be visible enough to distract my visual line. The more I look at this, the more I like the Framework laptop. P.S. Happy down-voting, have a nice day and stay safe.

Yeah the prices are up but you're getting so much more computer for your money. Just the new screen alone is worth the extra.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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I guess I'm pretty much alone here, but I don't really like these new MacBooks. The things I'm happy about: - Function keys are back! - They kept touchID - Chips are probably pretty good - Headphone jack, yay! But what I really dislike: - The case-design looks kind of outdated. I'm getting MacBook Pro 2006 vibes here. - The base price starts at 2.000$ (2250€) ! - The notch... On the iPhone the notch was justified wit…

You loose one usb-c port to get all the others. I've never needed 4 usb-c ports at a time, but definitely have needed all the others. And one usb-c port is replaced by power, which many times I have had to use one for anyway. So whether you bought into full usb-c future or not I don't see the extra ports hurting you. Maybe a 'whatever', but don't see it as a reason to dislike it.

I guess my line of thinking is that Apple going full USB-C was one major reason that the port took off for computers (USB-Sticks, Drives, Monitors, etc.). It feels like they surrender after winning.

I never really cared for MagSafe but I'm also not super annoyed about it being there (just a old/new proprietary charging port), but the HDMI port...that creates the same feeling for me as if they had added a USB-A or VGA port honestly.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

> It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro. If it doesn't run VirtualBox then I can't use it to write code, so why does it even matter if it's faster?

> why does it even matter if it's faster?

Have you considered that plenty of people don’t need VirtualBox to write code?

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #399

Nice. Ports are back. Very nice. Prices are up. Not nice. The deal breaker is the notch. Sorry Apple I am a designer. I cannot watch this 24/7. Even if the top bar is black the notch will be visible enough to distract my visual line. The more I look at this, the more I like the Framework laptop. P.S. Happy down-voting, have a nice day and stay safe.

Isn’t the notch strictly an improvement? The alternative is to lose that top area to a bezel. This feels like extra screen for free.

It is and it isn't. You are getting extra space for free, but some people like me have a very full menu bar and it's going to get very awkward with the notch.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Unfortunately it looks like Apple still has no option to disable temporal dithering or other sources of flicker (PWM, pixel inversion, etc). A minority of people have binocular vision dysfunctions (like convergence insufficiency) that give them severe eyestrain, headaches and migraines when this flicker occurs. Apple should treat this like an accessibility issue (like VoiceOver) but does not. The current treatment fr…

Do you have to use laptops with cathode backlights instead?

Ah, so for most of us LED itself is not strictly the problem. Low quality ones with a low refresh rate, like in some department stores, are a problem.

It is likely other sources of flicker like temporal dithering (FRC), you can see it here (it is on Windows too): https://youtu.be/0y-I3hqQgCQ

The visual noise/dots you see is the dithering. The e-ink display is slow enough so we can see it.

People with BVDs are strongly affected by that noise...and unfortunately simple pair of glasses does not help.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #35

These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…

> All the ports you could ever want I agree with everything else you said and I think overall these machines will be awesome. I would disagree with you on the ports though, I think this is kind of a miss for Apple. They caved into some of the loudest complaints from several years ago which were already coming from a loud minority and that minority is now smaller than ever. And if they were set on changing the ports t…

For all the times Apple seems to be willing to "stick to its guns" and ignore consumer complaining, this seems like a weird time to give in.

They basically made a line-in-the-sand on USB-C adoption, and it pretty much worked. I'd argue that an HDMI and SD card readers are less useful, and certainly far less versatile than additional USB-C ports.

For all the dongle jokes of a few years ago, I don't really see a reason to go back to less versatile ports in laptops.

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